Using Aikido to Change the Abortion Conversation


Picture this: A group of abortion opponents stand outside a women’s clinic holding pictures of fetal remains. As they stand there, calling and offering pamphlets to people entering the clinic, a trickle of pro-choice activists also arrive. Instead of lining up on the opposite side of the sidewalk, they position themselves beside the first group in silence, holding posters of their own.

The signs have words—not their own words but words from texts that inspire the anti-choice movement. Some quotes are from modern church leaders or ancient patriarchs. Others are from the Bible itself. They read:

  • I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children. –Saint Augustine
  • In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children and thy desire shall be to thy husband and he shall rule over thee.  –Genesis 3:16
  • Women will be saved through childbearing. –1 Timothy 2:15
  • The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes. –Martin Luther
  • If a woman grows weary and at last dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her only die from bearing; she is there to do it.  –Martin Luther
  • If no proof of the bride’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death.  –Deuteronomy 22:20-21
  • Her feelings drive woman toward every evil, just as reason impels man toward all good. –Saint Albertus Magnus
  • When life begins with that horrible situation of rape, that is something that God intended to happen. –Senate candidate Richard Mourdock
  • Women will be saved by going back to that role that God has chosen for them. –Pastor Mark Driscoll, Mars Hill Church, Seattle

The anti-abortion protesters are confused—Are these new people on our team or not? They lean and shuffle so that they can read the signs more clearly. A couple even ask, “Who are you?But the sign bearers just smile politely and decline to engage. Patients, staff, and passersby who read the words are offended. In fact, they are even more offended by the quotes than they are by the dead fetus pictures. And that is the point.

Aikido is a Japanese martial art that makes use of the attacker’s own momentum as a defensive strategy. Rather than trying to oppose force head-on, an Aikido practitioner—who may be small and weak—leverages her opponent’s own strength and energy, nudging the attacker’s move in one direction or another, or exaggerating it slightly, rendering the assault harmless.

The above scenario describing a clinic protest is an Aikido move. The abortion opponents hold up signs of fetal remains in an attempt to elicit disgust; the counter-protesters simply take that disgust and in a non-confrontational, nonviolent way, amplify and redirect it.

Why do words from the Bible and Christian authorities have Aikido potential? Because they are the driving force behind the dead fetus signs that have plagued patients and providers for two generations, and they are morally repugnant.  Abortion opponents may talk about babies and medical science; they may say falsely that abortion causes cancer or induces a psychological trauma syndrome, and that contraceptives render women infertile or that birth control pills turn your blood serum green. They may fight in court using legalese or pose as medical caregivers themselves, but behind and beneath it all lies the relentless drive of Bible belief and powerful religious traditions that lend the weight of absolute divine authority to gendered scripts.

As futurist Sara Robinson has said, in a century that included both the first automobile and the first man on the moon, the pill may well have been the most disruptive technology of them all. Every prior cultural or religious system, including Judeo-Christianity was scripted around one immutable biological fact: Women had no control over their fertility. This was the defining reality around which whole civilizations structured roles and obligations. It is why early legal codes, like that in the Bible, treated women as chattel—literally, the property of men. In cultures obsessed with patriarchal inheritance and sacred bloodlines, the only way to get around “mama’s baby, papa’s maybe” was for men to control the sexual behavior of their daughters, wives, and slaves.

One of the functions of religion is to elevate the status of cultural scripts, making them more durable, less subject to question and revision. “Why?” asks the curious or frustrated child. “Because I said so!” answers her parent, as if that answered the question. Later in life, faced with contradictions, frustrations, suffering, or self-doubt, the child (now grown) calls upon an introjected parent of divine proportions, and the answer echoes, “Because God said so!”

Many abortion protesters, though deeply religious, honestly believe that they are saving babies. They honestly believe that family planning hurts women. They have no idea they have been manipulated and are spending their days on the picket line in the service of an archaic script that served our Iron Age ancestors. Such is the power of rationalization.

Some do know that the secular arguments against abortion are philosophically tenuous or that family planning has tremendous power to lift families out of poverty. They know that the fight really is all about theology, but they would still prefer to make their case in universal terms. “Because my God said so” has less and less weight in modern society.

Globally, secularism is on the rise thanks in part to the Internet, and the United States is experiencing an unparalleled shift toward secularism. The New Scientist magazine recently took stock of the trend lines:

A decade ago, more than three-quarters of the world’s population identified themselves as religious. Today, less than 60 per cent do, and in about a quarter of countries the nones are now a majority. … Even in the US – a deeply Christian country – the number of people expressing “no religious affiliation” has risen from 5 per cent in 1972 to 20 per cent today; among people under 30, that number is closer to a third.

In Christian-dominant cultures, the violent and inconsistent passages of the Bible are becoming more known, as are the roots of Abrahamic religion in the earlier cultures of the Ancient Near East. Exposed to sunlight, ancient idols crumble, both literally and metaphorically, especially when they are held aloft by religious fanatics who are seen as judgmental and out of touch. Each of these is a trend-line that provides reproductive rights advocates with an Aikido opportunity.

Recently deceased Baptist pastor Fred Phelps was master of what I now call “The Phelps Effect,” in which a person makes his own position so repugnant that he moves public opinion in the opposite direction. Caught in the tangle of biblical literalism, Phelps quoted chapter and verse to back up his conviction that “God hates fags.” He became the face of homophobia, and he helped to make it repulsive. In doing so, he also undermined the authority of the particularly noxious scriptures he claimed as his own.

Like Phelps, most abortion opponents perceive themselves to be on a divinely appointed mission. Unlike Phelps, they may seek to downplay the biblical imperative that drives them, to deflect the debate onto topics like when life begins or fetal pain. They may use prenatal photography selectively to activate our protective instinct toward anything that looks big-eyed or remotely human. They may labor to blur the distinction between a fertilized egg and a baby or child. What they try to avoid is exposing the deep seated misogyny of their worldview. This year, the Republican Party has held trainings for national candidates on how to talk about women. Their goal is to try and avoid a repeat of the “rape Tourette’s” phenomenon that plagued the party two years ago. You can think horrible things about women, but just don’t say them.

This is where Aikido comes in.

Abortion opponents, on their own, may not go far enough to trigger the Phelps Effect. But we can. The clinic scenario that opens this article is one hypothetical example, but the opportunity is broader. I recently wrote about five religious leaders who are prone to saying awful things about women and LGBTQ people. I could have written about 50, each of whom provides ample opportunity to expose the long legacy of misogyny behind the man.

When we spotlight what drives the anti-choice movement, we expose a set of archaic imperatives that demand female submission and that tell young women they will be saved though childbearing. And ordinary Americans don’t like what they see.

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  • lady_black

    I like that idea. I mean I REALLY like it. Very intelligent.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      Excellent way to resist. I like it too.

  • Rita, Canberra

    I think you will find that no written words can erase the awful truth shown in those ghastly pictures of fetal remains.

    It’s not religion now but science and reason that represent the greatest obstacle to continued tolerance of abortions on the present scale.

    Biology, embryology, fetal surgery, ultrasound technology, and examination of the human remains of an aborted individual at the fetal stage of life all tell us that these
    tiny beings, targeted to be aborted, are human beings, belonging to the human family.

    • http://www.awaypoint.wordpress.com Valerie Tarico

      Human most certainly, but biology and embryology also inform us that an embryo or fetus lacks morally relevant qualities of personhood. The images arouse our instinctual aversion to harming other persons, including human infants and children; they do not arouse a reasoned engagement around the question of when and why our moral codes come into play. That is why I think they can be countered with another gut level aversion–our aversion to the vile sexism in Christian history and in the Bible.

    • Pinkladyapple

      Those pictures are of late term aborted and miscarried fetuses. They intentionally display those to lie and deceive people ignorant of abortion procedures that’s what ALL abortions look like. If you have to tell blatant lies and use deception for your cause you’re doing it wrong.

      • Laurie Bertram Roberts

        Yes and when you challenge them asking why they are standing outside of clinics that stop procedures at 16 weeks carrying with deceptive photos of stillborn 3rd term fetuses they never have an answer.

        • ChrisFunguy79

          Which clinic stops procedures at 16 weeks? Not Gosnell’s clinic for sure.

          • Jennifer Starr

            Do you have an actual point here, or are you admitting that the pictures that anti-choicers carry are actually deceptive?

          • ChrisFunguy79

            It’s only deceptive if the clinic doesn’t provide abortions after 16 weeks. I don’t know any states with 16-week bans, so …..

          • Jennifer Starr

            Most of the photos are actually of stillbirths.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            Does a stillbirth fetus at 16 weeks look the same as an induced abortion fetus at 16 weeks?

          • korhal

            Hard to say that the photos used are of 16 week old fetuses. They could be much older, but without seeing the photos, we can’t tell.

          • lady_black

            Actually there are no stillbirths at 16 weeks. Those are miscarriages.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            OK. Does a still birth at 20 weeks gestation look the same as a legal abortion at 20 weeks?

          • lady_black

            That depends. Does it matter?

          • ChrisFunguy79

            Apparently. since them using pictures of stillbirth is pissing people off.

          • lady_black

            It’s deceptive.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            How’s it deceptive? I guess we’re right back to where I started. Does a 20-week old aborted fetus look different than a stillbirth? – I mean, other than the hacked off limbs and scooped out brains and stuff.

          • Arekushieru

            Not relevant. Seriously, reading comprehension is NOT your forte, is it? The question is, do all abortions look like the ones that forced-birthers display in their photos? No. They don’t. In fact, not EVEN the majority. If the Pro-Life side wasn’t lying or attempting to be deceptive about abortion, they would have photos that ACCURATELY represented the different stages of abortion, meaning MORE PICTURES would represent earlier term abortions while a FEW pictures would represent later-term abortions. They don’t and they won’t, even when you tell them the TRUTH. Therefore, they are deceptive and lying.

            Seriously, Pro-Lifers like you should refrain from waving photos of so-called abortions around, if you can’t even accurately describe what an abortion procedure looks like, because it also makes it even MORE clear that the photos you’re using are MEANT to be deceptive, not only because you make it clear you, yourself, realize there are differences (albeit completely unrelated in any way to the differences you described) between abortions and stillbirths but because you show how easily you’ve been brainwashed into believing their propaganda.

          • purrtriarchy

            If zygotes are babies why don’t they use photos of zygotes on their signs?

            They accuse us of dehumanizing zygotes, yet, they are denying the humanity of zygotes by only using late term abortion and stillbirths don’t you think?

          • KM Misener

            Whether the fetus is miscarried, aborted, or stillborn, it should not change how developed it is. Isn’t the important thing to confirm its gestational age, not exactly how the fetus died?

          • Arekushieru

            No, the important thing is not to use pornography to support your cause or, at least, not use images obviously obtained illegally and without permission.

          • Jennifer Starr

            And the woman who actually helped with those dishonest and misleading photos was Dr Monica Migliorino Miller,
            who was at one point charged with child endangerment
            for leaving her toddler in a hot car while dress shopping.
            Hypocrisy is their middle name.

          • Laurie Bertram Roberts

            It matters if your signs says “this is what abortion looks like”

          • Shan

            The only clinic in my area that provides abortions has a 14wk cutoff but there’s no state ban after that. But that doesn’t stop the protesters showing up with graphic posters they say should be one of the reasons for closing the clinic: because the images are inappropriate for neighborhood children to see. Nice logic, eh?

          • ChrisFunguy79

            OMG, that clinic must be run by a bunch of antis if they don’t do abortions after 14 weeks.

          • Laurie Bertram Roberts

            The state doesn’t have to have a 16 week ban many clinics don’t provide procedures past 14 or 16 weeks and the clinic in Jackson Mississippi does not do procedures past 16 weeks. I am pretty sure I know more about where I live than you do but please tell me more.
            I am also sure after months of escorting outside said clinic last year I am sure I know more about what pictures the antis carried frequently than you do. However if you would like to continue to tell me about where I live carry on.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            Oh so you’re an escort for people who want to kill their babies. Cool.

          • Arekushieru

            Oh, misogynist alert! Hater of women who control their bodies and want to preserve their lives. Hater of poor women who access clinic services that have nothing to do with abortion, as well!

          • Arekushieru

            So? Gosnell is just as anti-choice as you are, so I don’t know what relevance he has to this situation….

          • ChrisFunguy79

            Anti choice?

            Hardly. He gave those women the choice to do what they wanted with their pregnancies. You, on the other hand, would have forced them to give birth because you are a “forced-birther.”

          • Arekushieru

            Nope, he forced abortions on them and killed live babies like you would have forced these women to give birth. No difference what so fucking ever. Thanks for PLAYING.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            They went there for abortions. They got abortions.

            Why are you so against a women’s right to choose to have an abortion. It’s her body, her choice.

            Go away forced birther.

          • Arekushieru

            They went there because it was the only place THEY COULD GO. If they had OTHER OPTIONS, it would have been a choice. You DO know what choice means, right? It means, at the most basic, having more than one option. The situation being OTHERWISE it was FORCE. OOOPS.

          • Arekushieru

            Go away, misogynist, forced birth troll.

          • goatini

            But since you are the forced-birther here, you just look ridiculous.

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            RIGHT WING MEME ALERT.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            Forced birther alert.

          • Arekushieru

            Why are you talking to yourself, when you’re replying to Plum?

          • goatini

            Yes, forced birther alert on you.

          • ChrisFunguy79

            How so? I’m the one trying to fight for women to have an abortion whenever they want, regardless of gestational age.
            I say all the way up to 39.99 weeks should be ok.

          • Arekushieru

            Nope, you’re the one who’s trying to misrepresent positions of people who believe women are human beings and pass yourself off as clever. Huge fail.

        • KM Misener

          Since I wasn’t there, I am not disputing that what you saw was in fact a 3rd trimester fetus, but I do not see why a pro-life activist would need to use 3rd trimester photos to protest an abortion at 16 weeks. A fetus at 16 weeks has all its organs, has fingers and toes, and looks very much like an infant – just smaller. I think it would be enough to show photos of an actual 16 weeker from a medical textbook.

          Actually, I have always found it interesting that abortion advocates shy away from using ultrasound photos or medical photos of fetal development. If pro-lifers are just lying and exaggerating about fetal development, why wouldn’t abortion advocates want to correct the information with accurate info? Instead, the response often seems to be “Those pro-lifers are lying” and just leave it at that.
          Why not show women accurate photos of the fetus so they understand exactly what they are destroying?
          A picture of a 3-D ultrasound or a photo from a medical textbook would set the record straight easily.

          • purrtriarchy

            Why don’t pro lifers put pictures of microscopic zygotes on their signs?

          • Arekushieru

            Actually, no. we don’t have to beat our heads bloody against a wall just to repeat a point that’s already been exhausted over and over, again. It’s not OUR job to stop countering your lies. It’s YOUR job to know when to stop lying.

            Many women on here have had abortions or miscarriages so they know EXACTLY what the fetal remains look like, much better than some outside observer.

          • Shan

            Two thirds of women having an abortion already have at least one child. They already KNOW what’s going on.

    • lady_black

      I don’t think any woman ever thought she was aborting a cow, dog, or goat. You focus so much on the embryo or fetus that the other human, the woman, is erased.

      • http://batman-news.com Mummel18000

        Woman? How did you think now? Is she of interest to anyone? Or to a “pro lifer”?

      • http://batman-news.com Mummel18000

        It is more like: “If you are a woman, and always wanted to live the life of a cow, join the pro-life movement”

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      Another fetusfreak has brought its murderporn for show-and-tell. Lucky us.

    • purrtriarchy

      No mind = not a human being.

    • Arekushieru

      Science and reason do not make people believe that women have no rights. Thanks for playing!

      • ChrisFunguy79

        Thank you sir for standing up for women’s right. I wish more men like you would do the same.

    • Goldenblack

      Eh? Most abortions occur before the first trimester is up. Having had multiple miscarriages, I can say that ‘science and reason’ showed me that in this period, the fetal remains look like nothing at all save for possibly a jellyfish.

    • KM Misener

      Rita, yes, it seems like they keep telling themselves that it’s all about religion because they don’t seem to have good answers to the philosophical and scientific arguments that groups such as Secular Pro-Life have been putting forward in recent years.
      This tactic just goes to show how desperate they are. They can’t win this debate on facts, so they resort to just trying to “poison the well” and make pro-lifers look bad through deception.

      • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

        By law I do not have to give you one drop of blood though you may die. Fact. You want to create special rights for a fetus that a born human does not have. Not going to happen. Changing the law will not stop abortions. All it will do is kill and maim some women.

      • purrtriarchy

        SPL just replaces ‘ god’ with ‘nature’. I am familiar with all of their shitty arguments.

      • Jennifer Starr

        I’ve read the arguments. Believe me, it’s nothing new. It’s just the same BS draped in secular clothing.

      • Arekushieru

        We have BEEN providing facts to counter your errors in thinking for YEARS, now. But you people are too thick to get it. such as: A fetus is not a human being, even if it were, that fact would be IRRELEVANT. So, therefore, we are hoping to expose you for what you are, using your own tactics. If you don’t like them. then look to the plank in your own eye, first (and, yes, that is certainly something that is applicable whether you are religious OR secular. TBSFS). We certainly could have used WORSE tactics. Providing images of women from Gosnell clinics, from countries where abortion is illegal or women from pre-Roe days in order to counter your pictures of supposed aborted fetuses. But we’re just not as nasty as you people.

        Obtw, FACT: there are no fetal women or newborn women. FACT: there is no such right to be born. FACT: No cismale has ever gotten pregnant. FACT: therefore in order to provide rights to fetuses you have to deny rights to ACTUAL women. Oops.

      • lady_black

        “Secular” pro-life arguments still seem pretty religious to me. They simply use appeal to nature and naturalistic fallacies in place of “god” fallacies.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      A fetus is human, it is alive, it may be unwanted. Too bad, so sad.

  • juliamiami

    Here in Miami, the more bold defenders of women’s access to clinics have employed this tactic. When the anti-woman zealots have their annual “life chain” and line major urban roads with their signs against abortion, we have participated some years. But the signs we hold are exaggerated “pro-life” messages with a little twist, such as: Kill Women Not Babies, Rapists are Fathers too – No Abortions, Incest Brings Families Closer, Life Begins at Rape, Forced Childbirth – the American Way, I Want to Have my Priest’s Baby, We’re Here to Prey on Women, Women are too Stupid to Know Abortion Kills Babies. We stood placidly among the “pro-lifers” and held our signs and smiled and waved at the passing cars. The response was quite dramatic!

    • Laurie Bertram Roberts

      We bought the “Jesus never shamed women” signs from Faith Aloud for the Jackson MS. clinic and people LOVE them. One anti actually thought it was their sign lol

  • Oak Cliff Townie

    How about pointing out that the ANTI -Choice bunch is just that ANTI CHOICE. Simple put Sexual intercourse is FOR Making babies The idea of having intercourse and Choosing otherwise is offensive to them..

    • lady_black

      Gee, that’s tough for them.

  • John H

    Hehe, it’s false flag meets poisonous friend. I love it.

  • KM Misener

    Essentially, you are saying abortion advocates should lie to women so that you can manipulate them into doing what you want them to do. Mourdock may well be an uneducated d-bag, but he has probably never bothered to spend a day standing outside a clinic. Trying to trick women into thinking that someone like that is the one standing outside a clinic makes you no better than the pro-lifers you claim are deceitful.

    You do realize that it would be very easy for pro-lifers to use this tactic in return and make up signs with offensive things that abortion advocates have said, yes?

    Just off the top of my head, I can imagine a pro-lifer could make some interesting signs quoting the abortion provider who was caught on video tape implying that nobody would want to adopt the “ugly black babies” he aborts. I have certainly run into my fair share of abortion advocates who were frank about wanting abortion to stay legal because they don’t want any more of The Wrong Kind of People born.

    Or perhaps it would be interesting to bring up some quotes from Peter Singer about how birth is an arbitrary dividing line and that it would actually make more sense to wait until a child is born to decide if it deserves to live.

    When you have to resort to trying to smear pro-lifers with the words of people they have never met, then that tells me you’re getting pretty desperate.
    If your position is not compelling enough based on facts, and you have to resort to making your opponents look like terrible people, that tells me a lot about how weak your stance actually is.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      Truth is an absolute defense to a charge of slander.

    • Arekushieru

      Every Pro-Lifer generally tends to be someone like Mourdock, whether they are religious fundamentalists or secular freaks. So, no, they’re not lying to women, ESPECIALLY not like you are.

      Actually, from the way you describe him, Peter Singer sounds just as anti-choice as you.

      Most Pro-Lifers are the most racist people I will ever meet in my entire life. That means denying supports to black women who are mothers just so that you can later claim that the higher numbers of abortions performed as a direct consequence of the higher numbers of unintended pregnancies that would occur as a result are the major ‘goal’ of Planned Parenthood and its founder, Margaret Sanger. Nice little catch 22 you have there, releasing you from ANY responsibility for the crap you spew.

      For every doctor and ‘abortion advocate’ that Liar Rose and Faux News claims to have made a classist or racist remark, I can find tons more on the Pro-Life side that ACTUALLY spew that bullshit.

      Actually, no, we don’t have to smear anti-choicers, you people do that to yourselves all on your own,by supporting extra fetal rights over women’s equal rights. Like another poster said above, the secular pro-life argument comes from the same place as the religious one. Just because the quotes the counter-protesters used came from a religious text doesn’t mean they have any less ground for support inside their secular counterpart’s arguments.

      It’s actually the Pro-Lifers who resort to smear tactics and make their opponents look like terrible people. So, by YOUR logic, you are showing just how weak YOUR stance is. Besides, just because you don’t like your own tactics being used against you, isn’t a reason to stop fighting fire with fire.

    • Jennifer Starr

      Trying to trick women into thinking that someone like that is the one standing outside a clinic makes you no better than the pro-lifers you claim are deceitful.

      I know what kind of people stand outside a clinic. I see them when I go to get my pap smear. I’m not talking about the ones who quietly pray–they’re fine. I’m talking about the clearly unbalanced individuals who follow and harass me in a supposed attempt to save my non-existent ‘baby’. No tricks are necessary because I already know.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      I would love to see you ran your conjob on this Father.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFWDYB0rWo

    • lady_black

      You know something? The people on this forum have no personal interest in what any given women does with an unplanned pregnancy. What we ARE personally interested in is that if any given woman decides to have an abortion, it’s safe and available, and if she chooses to give birth that she gets the resources she needs to raise the child. Only that given woman can make the decision which way to go. We here also, to the very last of us, are concerned that women have affordable access to family planning services, including surgical sterilization, to prevent the need for abortions in the first place. That makes you a vicious liar. You argue by misrepresentation of what we “want” and our motivations. If you have to lie to make your point, maybe you don’t actually have much of a point.

  • http://saintsintheland.wordpress.com/ Scáth

    Keep killing children for whatever reasons you believe are right. You will see otherwise one day.

    • purrtriarchy

      Prove that embryos are children.

    • Jennifer Starr

      No one is talking about ‘killing children’.

    • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

      Another forced birther pervert brings its murder fantasies for show-and-tell. Nickel a dozen.

    • Dez

      Another example of christian “love”. Do what we say or burn in hell forever. This is why people are losing the christian label. Too much hate.

    • Arekushieru

      Who is going to ‘show’ me? God? He killed children all the time in the Bible as well as endorsed ripping the fetuses from pregnant women’s bellies. So, who is going to ‘show’ me otherwise, again?

      Keep advocating for removing rights from women for whatever reasons you believe are right. You will see otherwise one day. My God and Jesus are NOT misogynists like YOURS.

    • lady_black

      Who’s talking about killing children?

  • goatini

    A diploid cell is NOT identical to a living, breathing female US citizen, no matter how much deliberately and maliciously deceptive psuedo-”scientific” lying propaganda you hurl at the wall.

  • Arekushieru

    The intent isn’t to terminate the fetus. The intent is to terminate a pregnancy. HUGE effing difference. Thanks.

    Whether or not it has a heartbeat is irrelevant. A heart can beat on its own in a petri dish.

    Most women who view the sonogram from an ultrasound before having an abortion report feeling relief.

  • Shan

    Rita, 2/3 of women in the US already have children. They don’t need an ultrasound or science to tell them what’s in there. They know what’s happening when they DO have an abortion and they know what will happen if they do NOT have one. Women are not idiots who need science to “rescue” them from decisions YOU don’t want them to make.