• fiona64

    “Tom walks Kristie to her classes and carries her books for her. He doesn’t want her to strain herself.”

    What is this, an episode of ‘Leave it to Beaver’? Every teenaged girl I’ve ever met is more than capable of carrying her school books.

    “Males and females are aroused at different levels of intimacy. Males
    are more sight orientated whereas females are more touch
    orientated. This is why girls need to be careful with what they wear,
    because males are looking! The girl might be thinking fashion, while the
    boy is thinking sex. For this reason, girls have a responsibility to
    wear modest clothing that doesn’t invite lustful thoughts.”

    Or boys could be taught to have some damn manners and not gape.

    Gah. This is all so maddening … and absurd.

  • tsara

    ““Generally female dogs allow the male to mount them/get on top of them, do their business, and leave. Some girls appear to act as if they want this.” (HIS, Teacher’s Manual, p. 27)

    “If [a girl] has been involved in sexual activity… sexually, she is no longer a virgin, she is no longer pure, unspoiled, fresh.” (HIS, Teacher’s Manual, p. 9)”

    …holy fuck this is terrible.

    And what do they say about gay, bi, and ace sex/relationships? And trans* people?


    • Violet

      There are a lot of choice quotes here but I think that one equating sexually interested girls to dogs takes the cake. That’s so, so fucked up.

  • cjvg

    In Iceland, a top ranked country when it comes to gender equality, girls score better than boys in both reading and math.
    Girls in countries in which the genders are treated fairly equal (such as Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Britain etc) scored the same or better then the boys on math.

    Obviously math proficiency, like many other so-called gender specifics in these programs are culturally enforced.
    These programs are complete and utter bolloks

  • Kayte

    Virginity is a cissexist social construct aka complete bullshit

  • mueizzathecat

    What a crock of shit….”Abstinence- only” bullshit….Just Idiots afraid of “The Female Planet”..that’s all..We will be so much better off when this lot of totally stupid people all die off, finally.

  • Meg Norris

    I opted my 14 year old OUT of sex education because I did not want him to be taught abstinence. Two years before, in a health class, he wisely refused to sign an “abstinence pledge card.” You should have heard what was said about me! I was the heathen parent!! Why in the world would we force our children to pledge abstinence? More “guilt” control?

    • cjvg

      Your kid has a lot of courage for standing up and not taking the easy way out.
      And yes that does say volumes about the parent(s), and how he was raised
      In my opinion all of it good!

      • Meg Norris

        Thank you. I am very proud of him. And you are very kind.

        • cjvg

          You are rightfully proud of him, and should be of yourself too.
          It is not an easy thing to instill the believe in yourself and the courage to stand for it in a child.
          Many of us do get there, but not that many are that young.
          Credit where credit is due.

          I can still remember back that far, at that age that peer pressure and not wanting to stand out to much was a big thing.
          I did not grow up here, my country is much more liberal and less judgmental about sexuality, I think in America this is quite a thing of courage for a child that age!
          I hope my children will show the same courage when confronted with something like this.

          At least your son will grow up with a healthy joyful outlook on his sexuality, while rejecting imposed societal shame and guilt
          Please let your son know also, that he has already shown more character then many adults do in their life.

          • Meg Norris

            He read your comments and when he was done blushing he looked at me and said “Thanks, Mom.” I cried.

          • cjvg


    • http://littlemisshaldol.tumblr.com/ LittleMissMellaril

      You go girl!

    • lucian1900

      As a non-American, all of this seems insane. How the hell is religious “sex education” legal in a secular country?

      • fiona64

        Curricula are often supervised by local boards of education. If you get enough religious nutters elected to a board, this is the outcome.

        • Meg Norris

          I’m in the south – nutter central!!!

          • fiona64

            You have my sincere sympathies. :-)

          • Jennifer Starr

            Sympathies from me as well–also in the south.

          • Valde

            http://4 dot bp dot blogspot dot com/-rg8l8mWq9Fo/UfgmFPyAumI/AAAAAAAA3OY/D-RNVTlr5Ug/s640/abortion.png

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            They combined the results from their own recent survey with surveys
            from others, and verify that Americans still support a woman’s right to
            control her own body (top chart). But the most interesting part was the
            regional divide on the issue.

            They divided the country into eight geographical regions (bottom chart),
            and six of those regions clearly support a woman’s right to choose. One
            region, the Midwest, is split right down the middle on the issue —
            with 47% on each side. There is only one region that opposes choice
            significantly — the South-Central region (Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma,
            Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama, and Arkansas). These states
            have a 12 point margin opposing choice.

            I guess this shouldn’t surprise anyone. These are also the states with
            the largest number of people without a high school education, and the
            largest number of poor people. They do a bad job of taking care of their
            own, but still want to tell the rest of America what it should be
            doing. And of course, they are all controlled by Republicans.

            Source: JobsAnger blog

      • jruwaldt

        It should definitely be unconstitutional. Although many would say that abstaining until marriage is a typical American value, these people are obviously influenced by religious belief and frequently reveal that. Just as creationist curricula clearly violate the Establishment Clause, even when they are stripped of all references to a deity, so too should abstinence curricula. Also, as with creationism, abstinence-only education is so unscientific that it doesn’t belong in any science or health class.

  • http://littlemisshaldol.tumblr.com/ LittleMissMellaril

    So b/c I want sex, am I a Man?

    • OldWoman

      Yes. Yes you are. Because obviously, women only want to have teh sexes to procreate. No woman could ever conceive (heh) of having sex for the mind-searing pleasure of sharing herself with someone that she wants to share with.

      So, now that you are a man, whip out your e-peen, hose us all down with testosterone, and show us $%^&*() what it is all about.

      (Poster reserves the right to remove this post when she stops giggling uncontrollably at the idiocy of people thinking that women are not sexual humans in their own right.)

      • FEnM

        “having sex for the mind-searing pleasure of sharing herself with someone that she wants to share with.”

        Or, hell, just to get off. But God forbid a woman just want casual sex. d-:

        • fiona64

          Women don’t actually enjoy sex. We just lie still and think of England. /snark

    • cjvg

      Actually you might be a dog.
      “Generally female dogs allow the male to mount them/get on top of them, do their business, and leave. Some girls appear to act as if they want this.” (HIS, Teacher’s Manual, p. 27)

      However I would not take that as an insult coming from that crowd, obviously dogs would make for way better citizens then these people could ever be.

      Besides you are in good company, I would guess pretty much every woman on this site would be considered a dog by these “humans” with an extremely diseases mental state.

      • http://littlemisshaldol.tumblr.com/ LittleMissMellaril

        Well, on the internet, no one knows I am a Dalmatian, keep it between up, OK?

        • cjvg

          Wow, you are pretty good looking

          • fiona64

            Show quality, in fact. (I used to show Dals.)

          • http://littlemisshaldol.tumblr.com/ LittleMissMellaril

            Why thank you, I consider myself rather elegant, unlike some people if you know what I mean!

        • Valde

          I had a dalmation when I was a little kid and she died of hemophilia:(

          • http://littlemisshaldol.tumblr.com/ LittleMissMellaril

            Your Dally is in Heaven now with all of the space to run as their little heart desires!

          • cjvg

            I’m sorry
            Nobody loves so selflessly as a dog

  • Patrick Elliott

    ““Males … are usually better at spatial reasoning than females. … Males’
    superior skills in this area give them an advantage in math,
    engineering, and architecture.” (Worth the Wait, Section 5-11)”

    Except when they play the same video games, or otherwise are involved with activities that require such skills, then they are the same. Same with math, or any of the rest of the crap. Oddly, when you cram one into a science class, and the other into a cooking class, for example, the one in the cooking class ends up being a total idiot about science. Odd that…

    No, the actual data, not the stuff these people pull out of their backsides, shows a very small variation, with a **massive** overlap, and no clear and obvious evidence that the outliers, which lie on the extremes of variation, are not there *precisely* because of this sort of total gender based nonsense, about what one can/does do better than the other.

    But, it is also hardly a bloody surprise that people who deny large parts of other aspects of reality, based on their warped belief in the nonsense that it came out of, would also have a similarly gibberish based set of presuppositions, and assumptions, about gender, as well. In point of fact, for the sort that push this stuff, its kind of a job requirement. They won’t get their divine paycheck, after they choke on all the money they are also stealing out of everyone’s pockets, if they don’t promote the right “official” theological positions.

    The reason that it doesn’t belong in schools is that its not just biased, gender destructive, and well.. don’t bloody work, its also “inhuman”, which is, pretty much “why” it doesn’t work. Its a vision of how people should act, that is based on nonsense, wishful thinking, a persistence insanity that proclaims that, “If you keep trying the same thing, over and over, and enough people finally believe it, it will start actually working.” We have a similar idiot idea with the “war on drugs”. These are the solutions:

    1. Recognize that people will do things.
    2. Make it safer.
    3. In the long run, either, in the case of sex, accept that it happens, but have reached a point where the risks involved are no worse than deciding to play sports, or like, rock climb, or something, where, maybe, the ones that you teach properly, only rarely get hurt, and use the proper safety equipment, or, with the drug situation, maybe you finally figure them out enough, through actual research, to stop addiction, and get people proper treatment.
    4. The only people who still have a problem are the ones still obsessed with the idea that you shouldn’t “do” such things.


    1. Insist that people wouldn’t do it, if you lie to them enough, or scare them enough, or they accepted the right god, or something..
    2. Make it intentionally more dangerous, so you have plenty of examples to scare people with.
    3. When that fails, start passing laws that make oral sex, for even married people, a criminal offense, and lie about it applying to them (like, having it apply to any bloody other person isn’t insane).
    4. Keep doing this same stuff, only, more and more of it, on the theory that the last group of insane puritans who tried it, just either didn’t try hard enough, or goofed somehow, and just didn’t do it right.

    And yet, somehow, there are people that think the second list makes more sense, and people actually #@#$#% elected them!

    • fiona64

      Oddly, when you cram one into a science class, and the other into a
      cooking class, for example, the one in the cooking class ends up being a
      total idiot about science. Odd that…

      Actually, I’m better at baking … specifically because it *is* science. And most of the great chefs of the world are male. Which actually proves your point — this whole curriculum is based on rigid concepts of “appropriate” gender roles, and is complete and utter bullshit.

  • CatieCan

    “While a man needs little or no preparation for sex, a woman often needs hours of emotional and mental preparation.”

    I can’t breathe from laughing.

    • Dez

      LOL. Or in my case a couple of cocktails.

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