The Next Wave of Feminism


I recently started to wear this piece of jewelry again after many years. It is a silver pendant of Diana, goddess of the moon. 

More than 30 years ago the feminist movement reintroduced a host of goddesses into women’s daily lives. By the 1990’s they had all but disappeared. When women comment on my necklace I say that women need goddesses in our lives again, and they invariably agree.

I have been devastated about the daily reports of woman-hating legislation all across the country. I have been haunted, wondering how women could seemingly have lost all our power. In searching for an answer I have gone back to my old feminist library.

It is challenging to write about the women’s movement without appearing nostalgic, or seeming to suggest that we should do what we did then. I know we are in a new era and there is a lot that remains unfinished. I’m looking for the ‘bones’ of a movement—the underpinnings that act as a springboard to the next level of change. Learning about the women who came before us was part of what lit women on fire in the seventies. When I feel discouraged it is helpful to remember that all social movements including feminism have times of rapid, active change and times of glacial almost imperceptible change.

One of the first women’s rights gatherings was in 1848 in Seneca Falls, New York. It took 30 years after that meeting for the 19th Amendment (votes for women) to be introduced into Congress (1878). For more than 30 years the legislation went nowhere. Then in 1910-11, energy began again and it was finally adopted in 1920 after another decade of activism.

Fifty years later what has been called the Second Wave of the women’s movement took hold of the mainstream in the 1970’s. That extremely dynamic period of change lasted a little more than a decade, ending with the failure of the Equal Rights Amendment in 1982.

That was 29 years ago. Are you ready?

Just lately I’ve moved from discouragement to hope. It’s as though I have my ear to the ground and I can feel the earliest tremors of an earthquake. I’m thrilled by the sense that these tremors are also being felt by women and men all over the world.

I believe a new wave of feminism is coming that will be about unfinished business–transformation rather than reform of the very game of life we human beings are playing—-a transformation of gender, ecology, race, fairness, class—-and so much more. The artificial separation of childbirth from abortion from childcare from adoption from birth control from infertility, etc. will be revealed and healed. Feminism will be understood as a philosophy of life that benefits all humans as well as the planet, rather than a movement to give women a bigger piece of a pie that was poisoned long ago. On our way to the quake, we’re going to go through some hard times that invite us to find creative ways to reach out to each other. And once again each of us will know that we are part of something much, much bigger than ourselves.

Perhaps we should think of this as the continuation of the Third Wave that has been percolating for last three decades. I don’t know what we will call it, but it is going to be a tsunami.

1,000 amazing feminist books are available on Amazon’s “Feminist Journal.” A few of my favorites:

Going Out of Our Minds—Sonia Johnson

The World Split Open–Ruth Rosen

When Everything Changed—Gail Collins

The Creation of Patriarchy—Gerda Lerner

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  • kate-ranieri

    Charlotte, as I stood among those supporting Dr. Carhart at the Summer of Choice event in Germantown, MD, I was so touched by the engagement, emotionally, spiritually and intellectually, of the young women who really, truly get it. As an oldster, I was heartened by so many my age, men and women with grown children, who have been reinvigorated by the wave of anti woman legislation and general misogyny. 

     

    And here in the Lehigh Valley, people are fed up. Tremblings, rumblings, perhaps tremors, as you say, are coming. I’m cautiously optimistic that things will change. And I’m certain that much of the tremors will be from our voices shouting back, demanding more, saying “We’ve had enough”

  • jimthompsonmensrightsvideos

    Reality check:

    Feminism is now about narcissism. Witness: SlutWalk.

    Feminism is a dinosaur movement trying to justify itself in the modern world. Women have all the rights they could want. They can vote, divorce, abort, and study to be anything they want.

    Oh, the oppression!

    Feminism turned “Patriarchy” into a dirty word (just like it did to “fatherhood” and “Pro-Life”), but we men are reclaiming it. Patriarchy has been undeniably effective at maintaining societies that are stable, orderly, and family-oriented.

    Patriarchy built every single civilization, city, and major institution on this planet. Patriarchy (men) does the hardest and toughest jobs, are turned to as rescuers, and are builders of infrastructure. Curiously, Feminists are in tacit approval of Patriarchy when it involves “demeaning” physical labor.

    Feminism, in contrast, does not build anything. It’s main purpose: to “convince” men that women have a moral superiority and that men are inherently evil (based on sex organs). The bubble bath from which the Feminist dispenses condemnation was built by men, from trench to faucet.

    50 years of Feminism has done wonders: divorce, abortion, and single motherhood have soared off the charts. An entire generation of men and women feel that it is no big deal to walk away from their marriage and children.

    Feminism has revealed itself as a cabal of prima donas who engage in endless academic navel-gazing about their vaginas and unused ovaries. Aside from this Negative Narcissism (self-absorbed bitterness towards men), their wheel-spinning inside academic echo chambers is of little positive consequence to the world. Feminism has behaved more like a virus. Infecting women with a permanent victim mentality and criminalizing many good men.

    The Era of Feminism is over and the “Feminist Grievance Industry” knows it. Men have watched during the last few decades as Feminists ran roughshod over marriage, pregnancy, family, and even the notion of “equality” (based on generic people who do not exist).

    Divorce, abortion, and single motherhood are disasters that no sane person would want for their own own daughter.

    And yet, Feminists were their greatest champions of those disasters.

    Time to call the bluff on this silly game and re-examine and reaffirm a Positive Patriarchy that validates positive gender roles for both men and women. We need to discard the Feminist Fantasy of “generic” human beings who do not exist. 

    Watch 64 videos by “Women Against Feminism” and read more at Mens Rights Videos:
    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL616D23D1DE15D5A1

    and read more at
    http://www.youtube.com/user/MensRightsVideos

  • prochoiceferret

     

    Reality check:

    Feminism is now about narcissism. Witness: SlutWalk.

     

    Reality check: Jim Thompson doesn’t understand feminism, nor SlutWalk. But judging from the rest of his post, he certainly understands narcissism!

     

    Feminism is a dinosaur movement trying to justify itself in the modern world. Women have all the rights they could want. They can vote, divorce, abort, and study to be anything they want.

    Oh, the oppression!

     

    They can abort? I don’t suppose you’ve talked with the current majority party in Congress, and many state legislatures?

     

    Feminism turned “Patriarchy” into a dirty word (just like it did to “fatherhood” and “Pro-Life”), but we men are reclaiming it. Patriarchy has been undeniably effective at maintaining societies that are stable, orderly, and family-oriented.

     

    And crushingly repressive of women. Not that you really care about that.

     

    Patriarchy built every single civilization, city, and major institution on this planet.

     

    And coincidentally, slavery has a long record of achievements, too!

     

    Patriarchy (men) does the hardest and toughest jobs, are turned to as rescuers, and are builders of infrastructure. Curiously, Feminists are in tacit approval of Patriarchy when it involves “demeaning” physical labor.

     

    Funnily enough, women do many of those “hardest and toughest jobs,” and are often turned to as rescuers, and are even builders of infrastructure! And no, what you think is the tacit approval of “Patriarchy” by “Feminists” is actually just you not listening to them. Patriarchy fans are pretty good at that.

     

    Feminism, in contrast, does not build anything. It’s main purpose: to “convince” men that women have a moral superiority and that men are inherently evil (based on sex organs). The bubble bath from which the Feminist dispenses condemnation was built by men, from trench to faucet.

     

    This bizarre idea of what you think feminism is was certainly built by men. That’s one of the many things that feminism has been fighting against, in the course of building a more egalitarian world.

     

    50 years of Feminism has done wonders: divorce, abortion, and single motherhood have soared off the charts. An entire generation of men and women feel that it is no big deal to walk away from their marriage and children.

     

    Oh, so this week we’re blaming feminism for those ills. What’ll it be next week: the Pill, TV, or rock-‘n-roll?

     

    Feminism has revealed itself as a cabal of prima donas who engage in endless academic navel-gazing about their vaginas and unused ovaries. Aside from this Negative Narcissism (self-absorbed bitterness towards men), their wheel-spinning inside academic echo chambers is of little positive consequence to the world. Feminism has behaved more like a virus. Infecting women with a permanent victim mentality and criminalizing many good men.

     

    Not least the “good men” who seem to feel entitled to those vaginas (whether or not they have any interest in the ovaries). As for “a cabal of prima donas who engage in endless academic navel-gazing,” you’re talking about the men’s rights movement, right?

     

    The Era of Feminism is over and the “Feminist Grievance Industry” knows it. Men have watched during the last few decades as Feminists ran roughshod over marriage, pregnancy, family, and even the notion of “equality” (based on generic people who do not exist).

     

    I dunno, you certainly seem like a generic misogynistic MRA troll-person to me.

     

    Divorce, abortion, and single motherhood are disasters that no sane person would want for their own own daughter.

     

    Sure, but they’re a darn sight better than being in an abusive marriage, unwanted pregnancy, and living with a toxically violent father, wouldn’t you say?

     

    And yet, Feminists were their greatest champions of those disasters.

     

    You know, it’s funny that you championed (male) rescuers earlier. Because by your bizarre logic, they’re the ones responsible for whatever people need to be rescued from!

     

    Time to call the bluff on this silly game and re-examine and reaffirm a Positive Patriarchy that validates positive gender roles for both men and women. We need to discard the Feminist Fantasy of “generic” human beings who do not exist.

     

    Why don’t you work on a Positive Slavery while you’re at it? You know, one that validates positive racial roles for both Whites and Blacks, and discards the abolitionist fantasy of “grey” human beings who do not exist. (At least in black-and-white land.)

     

    Watch 64 videos by “Women Against Feminism” and read more at Mens Rights Videos:

     

    No thanks, I’d rather watch cute cat videos. It would be a lot more productive.

  • concerned-feminist

    Jim, the only Narcisist here is you. I guess being told you’re not superior anymore must be soooo oppressive. Your ramblings represent everything the Feminist movement is based on. The idea that giving women equal rights is somehow inhertly evil is the exact mentality that fuels our movemnet. Men are just as much responsible for divorce, single motherhood, abortion, etc as women are. It takes 2 to tango, buddy. Perhaps it is men that need to learn how to be REAL men & stop giving women a reason to not “respect” them or thier decisions. Perhaps if men treated women properly, we wouldn’t be so inclined to divorce, abort, be single parents, etc. Newsflash dude, a large percentage of the time it is the man that walks out on the woman the minute there is any commitment or responsibility to be involved. The minute a woman gets “knocked up” or want a stable relationship, men freak & run off like little chickens or stay the course & abuse them & or thier own children because they somehow feel it is not thier responsibility. Men have done his to women for years & continue to do so, now the shoe is on the other foot & you can’t handle that either. It’s not even on the other foot because women are not getting men pregnant, or telling them to “get rid of it ‘cos I’m not ready to be a parent” when they do, or stapping them down with full custody of the children while we run off never to be seen or heard from again, or making them endure the amout of pain & abuse many divorced men have caused thier wives. When the majority of men have a clue as to what any of that is like they can dictate who the REAL Narcissist here is. Why should men be the only one allowed to make decisions for someone else? Women are just as inclined to make thier own life decisions in terms of relationships & everything else as men are. Sounds to me your true problem lies within yourself trying to justify why women don’t respect you all the while spelling it plainly out for all including yourself, to see. You think being the exact type of douchebag that Feminists rally against is going to get you the respect you feel you are entitled to? Obviously not, you’re just throwing a hissy fit like a spoiled child who just learned he is not the center of the world. I happen to LOVE men personally, I find them to be better friends than most women when they treat me as thier equal. In return, they recieve my undying respect & dedication. This is not about being superior or better, it is about being equal. It is about not having to live by a different set of standards, whether for better or worse, because of our physical anatomy. In an equal world, there would be no such thing as race, creed, religion or gender, we would all simply be PEOPLE. It’s not men that we are against, it is pigs like you claiming to be men because of some obvious fear or resentment of your own inferiority. A man fully secure in his masculinity would not feel a need to rub it in others’ faces or feel threatened by someone else’s pride or power. One is lead to believe that you are upset that no woman finds you attractive enough to even respect you, which your mentality clearly illustrates the reason why. So thank you Jim. Thank you for explaining to all the men & women out there why the Feminist Movement still thrives & will continue to thrive untill the mentality provoking it, as is yours, is no longer acceptable. 

  • colleen

    Conservatives have been saying :

     

    The Era of Feminism Is Over

    and variations on this lie for all my 63 years and yet, here you are. MAking an ass out of yourself .

     It’s not our fault you are unmarriageable and are incapable of having an adult relationship.

  • freetobe

    Which is a good thing however the world is in so much trouble now I fear there will be no time for anything but sheer survival for all of us and of course women and children will be the forgotten ones.

     

    Jim Thompson you writings sound familiar you must have been done wrong by a woman somewhere. You sound very bitter for not much reason. I do not know how you can say “mens rights” when at least white men in the US have total complete rights just by being born male. You have full constitutional rights that you all have used to your benefit for some time now.

    you get paid more,you are valued by society more,you are heard more and you lead the crowds in almost everything. Why do you insist on more? You will never be happy obviously.

    Yes women know all about all the contributions and work that men have done you dominate the history books and the Bible remember God is a man? Wow talk about greedy litlle runny nosed unthankful, ungreatful brats. I hope you return in your next life as a male seahorse continually pregnant then maybe you will not compalin anymore.

    Meanwhile women get baiscally the shaft. I guess us laboring for hours and carrying you fools around risking life and limb are of no importance at all.

  • gemmarollando

    Charlotte —  a wonderful post – and I am full of hope.

  • concerned-feminist

    Of course it’s of no importance. It’s done by women. If men did it you would have superhero comics about how bold & strong & fearless these brave warriors are. But for women, it should be like tying a shoe (not that they should ever be wearing THOSE kind of shoes. It’s high heels or barefoot only for women that ain’t “askin for it”!) simply because we’re inferior anyway & that’s the only thing of value we can contribute. Never mind cooking, cleaning, raising said children, satisfying our “Master”s, being “Respectable”, all the while not having a single hair out of place or blemish of any kind because a woman is only as good as her looks, but Heaven forbid she uses this to her OWN advantage with anyone else but her “Master” who is free to savor in the spoils of all the other women he should like, thus rendering them “damaged goods” for the next man. A woman must do so without getting pregnant, otherwise she is a slut & deserves it, but there’s no cutting corners! No she must be naturally in control of her own fertility & if not, she’ll just have to “suck it up” because it’s not the “Master”s responsibility to help raise the child he helps produce. As a matter of fact, if he doesn’t like the idea of his property getting all “bloated & moody & then having an annoying brat around, he has every right to punish her for her “irresponsibility” of submitting to his desires in the manner he sees fit. No abortion, because even though he wants nothing to do with it, the fetus is now HIS property as well, & if the woman has a miscarriage, it’s her own damn faut & she’s a terrible mother for not taking better care of herself or “acting out” & needing “punished”. He does ALL the “important” work, I mean he has to have an orgasm & ejaculation, we all know how hard that is for a man to even want, but damn dirty sluts are asking for it being all sexy just as thier “Masters” require them to be.

  • concerned-feminist

    Whoa there Jim, you sure usin’ some fancy words there. You know what any of ‘em means or are ya jus’ tryna sound ed-yoo-kay-ted?

  • jimthompsonmensrightsvideos

    The minute a woman gets “knocked up” or want a stable relationship, men freak & run off like little chickens or stay the course & abuse them & or thier own children because they somehow feel it is not thier responsibility. Men have done his to women for years & continue to do so…

    I condemn any man who walks out on his own children. Such men need to be shot. He has not fulfilled his role as a man and is a disgrace to men everywhere.

    That being said, these men are using Feminist Thinking that excuses abortion (baby killing) and “doing your own thing” without consequences.

  • jimthompsonmensrightsvideos

    thus rendering them “damaged goods” for the next man. A woman must do so without getting pregnant, otherwise she is a slut & deserves it, but there’s no cutting corners! No she must be naturally in control of her own fertility & if not, she’ll just have to “suck it up” because it’s not the “Master”s responsibility to help raise the child he helps produce.

    Under Positive Patriarchy, women would be protected and valued as Women (not “imitation men”).

    Positve Patriarchy would instill strong, productive and protective values in a man.

    Men are weak today because of the weak culture they are given to work with. And Feminism has been a major contributing factor in that.

    My boys are raised to be take-charge and fearless. They are Evolution’s answer to protecting the Human Species. They have no problem telling a woman “No” to her face and also protecting that woman against anything.

    Wouldn’t you want a man like that?

  • wendy-banks

    It’s not our fault you are unmarriageable and are incapable of having an adult relationship. 

     

    What do you mean? The fact that he is a a-hole IS his fault! If he wasn’t such a jerk, us females might like him more.

  • wendy-banks

    A man like you? I think not! If a man like you was all I could look forward to, I’d put a gun to my head. My first BF WAS like you an abusive woman-hating troll.

  • rebellious-grrl

    Short answer, “Hell no.”

    Are you suggesting we go back in time to the “Father Knows Best era?” If so, not going to happen. Feminism is here to stay.

    My boys are raised to be take-charge and fearless. They are Evolution’s answer to protecting the Human Species. They have no problem telling a woman “No” to her face and also protecting that woman against anything.

    Wow, that is a sick and twisted statement if I ever heard one. I was raised by my parents to be “Take-charge and fearless” and that’s why I am a successful woman today.  My mom and dad are feminists, thank goddess. *BTW* women don’t need “patriarchal protection.” I’ve defended myself just fine against angry men. I never called to the aid of a man to protect me.

  • beenthere72

    If you’re not also teaching them to *respect* women along with that take-charge and fearless crap, then I fear you’re raising them to be rapists and abusers.    You best be teaching them to respect *hearing* “No” from a woman as well.   

  • concerned-feminist

    You issue then should be with other men, not the women they are driving us to become. Teach men to respect women & women will respect them in return.

  • concerned-feminist

    Men like Jim are not men. They’re scared, bitter, jealous trolls trying to justify thier self-imposed inferiority complex. Obviously if women have so much power over you, then perhaps they have something you don’t besides basic human rights.

  • concerned-feminist

    If your sons have no problem telling a woman “No” to her face, shouldn’t women have the same right? Or do he-man woman haters like you not accept “No” for an answer? Don’t spit what you can’t swallow, Jim.

  • concerned-feminist

    JIm, what exactly would you raise your daughters to be? Would you not want them to be “take charge & fearless” as well? For the sake of humanity, I hope you don’t have daughters. You must hate your own mother as well. I’m sure she had the gall to think she could tell you “no” as a child at some point. THAT BITCH!

  • concerned-feminist

    Feeling rather smug there, Jim? I don’t need a man to protect me, nor do I expect one too. Women are not weaklings & are capable of making thier own decisions & have been doing so without consequence for years. Part of the Feminist movement is about teaching women to be held to the same accountablity as men & surviving on her own, individual merits & not expecting “Pity” or “Sympathy” or “Favors” from others simply for being women. It’s degrading. Women are fully capable of working for what they are given & should. Susan B. Anthony fought for women’s rights to vote & won, but at the expence of being prosecuted. Rather than being let go because the laws of the time discouraged jailing women on grounds that the were “mentally incompetent” or “physically weak”, she fought for her right to be jailed & tried as a man!

     

  • darkamir

    Maybe you can listen instead of holding on to dogmatic concepts like patriarchy to explain EVERYTHING WRONG in the world.

    Men die younger due to preventable diseases (when did you see government men’s health funding? many programs for women, did anybody cares about it?)

    Men are less educated (again, when did you a government program to help men? many programs for women)

    Men are more homeless and in prison

    And above all men are MARGINALIZED AS FATHERS and turned into alimony slaves by the court system.

     

    An example for discrimination created by feminism: Feminists (and non feminists) like to fight for a noble causes like breast cancer and women health (mainly women disease). Yes, I know, you don’t think this is a bad thing, many don’t. However, men’s health and specific diseases are neglected due to this populist focus on women health. For women it is acceptable only to support half of the population, not for men. FUNDING IS A ZERO SUM GAME. Since they are taking money away from men’s health programs, they create discrimination. The population in most need to health programs, the part that dies earlier and is less educated etc., gets much less than the healthier longer lived part. You are a part of that feminist machine. Your activism creates discrimination.

     

    We will fight back agaisnt this sexist feminsim. Not in order to be superior, but to get equal rights while treating women with respect and love.

  • wendy-banks

    Aww. The poor ‘ittle menz… 

  • darkamir

    Ridicule is the first answer any feminst gives. You could focus on substence, but didn’t.

  • darkamir

    Everybody tell boys to respect women.

     

    I would be very surprise to hear that a feminist would ever tell her daughter to respect boys. 

  • prochoiceferret

    Ridicule is the first answer any feminst gives. You could focus on substence, but didn’t.

     

    Sorry, but when we see that kind of “substance,” we know not to step in it.

  • darkamir

    My views are based on statistical data (education, age, etc.) not rage or anger, I have a mother, wife and a daughter which I dearly love.

     

    I am here to let you hear the other side of your story (and ironically, a reality check).

    If you don’t want to hear it, too bad. You can stick to your feminist religion and believe what they tell you.

  • concerned-feminist

    I respect men plenty & I expect other women to do the same. That said, men that do not respect women are not men, nor do they deserve respect. Those that do are men & deserve equal respect. I am willing to admit that there are women that do not respect men, but I still find those to be in the same minority as men who do not respect women. You respect others, you get respect. That’s the way it should be, regardless of sex. I respect people that respect others, male or female, so please present a relevant argument here. 

  • prochoiceferret

    Everybody tell boys to respect women.

     

    Looks like they forgot to tell you.

     

    I would be very surprise to hear that a feminist would ever tell her daughter to respect boys.

     

    I think a feminist would raise her daughter to be respectful of people. Unless, of course, said people are total arseholes. Have you considered this possibility?

  • concerned-feminist

    Part of being a feminist is rising above gender descrimination & disparity & empowering oneself to become what she is fully capable of doing, without feeling repressed or discouraged by others. It is not about losing repect for a group of people, it is about ignoring them & rising above. By validating disrespect with equal disrspect, it negates the idea of what is to be accomplished. People are welcome to thier own beliefs, but it is up to us to prove them wrong in hopes that they will change & respect us rather than persecute them the way they persecute us & cause further resentment. We are better than that.

  • beenthere72

    I don’t see any gender discrimination here:

    http://www.hrsa.gov/

    or here:

    http://www.ahrq.gov/

    or here:

    http://www.hhs.gov/

     

    Did you know men can and do use Planned Parenthood too?   

     

    Forbes puts Susan G Komen pretty far down on the list here:  http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/14/charity-10_rank.html  (reorder it by revenue)

    Ahead of them are charities that do not discriminate or focus on children.   You are welcome to champion your next cause and rally the male troops in the name of a mens-only cancer (you forget the men get breast cancer too?).  

     

    Education?

    Hmmmm: http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/101-grants.htm

    Sure there are a few for just women, but look how many zillions of others are not for just women. 

    Are you going to tell me that just because there are a few that are African American only that that’s racism too? (probably  ::sigh::)

     

    Men commit more crimes. 

     

    As for homelessness – here’s an interesting stat:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Statistics_and_demographics

    40% are families with children—the fastest growing segment.

     

    The rest of your drivel just makes absolutely no sense.    If you could have babies too, I’m sure the playing field would be even (and abortion would be free, on demand, and available at as many locations as we have Dunkin Donuts in Massachusetts).     But since legislators are constantly fighting to deny WOMEN – not MEN – basic rights to healthcare, then it IS an uneven playing field.  How much legislation has been put forth in recent years to limit YOUR access to legal healthcare?   Riddle me that! 

     

    And I have to add that if you’ve become nothing more than an alimony slave, more often than not, it’s because you did something wrong as a parent and a spouse.   

     

  • darkamir

     

    I don’t see any gender discrimination here: 

    http://www.hrsa.gov/

    or here:

    http://www.ahrq.gov/

    or here:

    http://www.hhs.gov/

     

    I looked for 5 seconds.  Women health section and programs exists, but not men health.  

    http://mchb.hrsa.gov/womenshealth/ 

    Again: MEN DIE MUCH EARLIER AND NOBODY CARES. Imagine the oppisite, it would have been the greatest health care crisis of the century.

     

    “Did you know men can and do use Planned Parenthood too?   “

    Awesome.

     

    “You are welcome to champion your next cause and rally the male troops in the name of a mens-only cancer (you forget the men get breast cancer too?). “

    I don’t want to play the feminist game in its male version.

     

    We need to just take care of society problems without regard to gender, but with regard to the severity of the problem. Feminism is gender nationalism, I don’t want to create male nationalism to you female nationalism. Women should abandon the feminist movement and support equality in a movement that identifies with all people, not only people with similar sex.  

     

     

    “Education?

    Hmmmm: http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/101-grants.htm

    Sure there are a few for just women, but look how many zillions of others are not for just women. 

    Are you going to tell me that just because there are a few that are African American only that that’s racism too? (probably  ::sigh::)”

     

    Regarding education, see:

    http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/66482/

    and university ratio is currently 3 women to 2 men.

    Men commit more crimes. 

    True, but that may also be used to say that society does not invest enough in the education of boys.

     

    “As for homelessness – here’s an interesting stat:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Statistic

    The full data is:

     

    Familial composition[19]

    §  40% are families with children—the fastest growing segment.

    §  41% are single males.

    §  14% are single females.

    §  5% are minors unaccompanied by adults.

     

     

    The rest of your drivel just makes absolutely no sense.    If you could have babies too, I’m sure the playing field would be even (and abortion would be free, on demand, and available at as many locations as we have Dunkin Donuts in Massachusetts).     But since legislators are constantly fighting to deny WOMEN – not MEN – basic rights to healthcare, then it IS an uneven playing field.  How much legislation has been put forth in recent years to limit YOUR access to legal healthcare?   Riddle me that! 

    I support abortions and the right to choose. Why did you assume otherwise?

    And I have to add that if you’ve become nothing more than an alimony slave, more often than not, it’s because you did something wrong as a parent and a spouse. 

    My father was wronged by the system, however, I am very happily married with two kids. 

     

  • crowepps

    Men have a shorter average lifespan than women because

    - boys are more likely to die soon after birth

    boys are more likely to have birth defects and disabilities which shorter their lives

    - boys are more likely to die in accidents caused by risk taking behaviors

    - boys are more likely to be injured playing sports

    boys are more likely to succeed at committing sucide

    boys are more likely to be shot

    boys are more likely to be criminals

    - boys are more likely to become soldiers or work in dangerous conditions.

    As adults, ON AVERAGE, men do not eat healthy diets, don’t keep their weight down, don’t avoid cigarettes and alcohol and drugs, don’t pay attention to and address signs of ill health, do not go to the doctor regularly for “well person” checkups and do not organize and work together to raise funding for ‘men’s diseases’.  Men’s lives are shorter because their own choices make them shorter.

    • maiac

      crowepps, you are absolutely correct that men’s higher death rate/lower life expectancy is NOT evidence of men’s oppression.

      however, to suggest that it’s simply a result of individual men’s “bad choices” is also disengenous.

       

      while patriarchy benefits men’s power as a group, many individual men do not benefit from that (and many who do also suffer as human beings in exchange for that power). remember, patriarchy is as much about men’s power over other men as it is about men’s power over women. so, when men are making these choices, they are often doing so in fear for their position relative to other men. that doesn’t mean that they are victims of some sort of feminist conspiracy not to care about them. but it DOES mean that most men are also victimized (as human beings) by patriarchy (similarly, most white people are victimized in some ways by our racist system of white supremacy). oppression DOES hurt dominant groups as human beings. now, they get group power as a tradeoff for that (which, along with other factors, is what makes this hurt be not very accurately described as oppressipon), but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t hurt.

       

      the beauty of this is that acknowledging that patriarchy ALSO makes men’s lives suck a little more (even though they get power for it – the “price of the ticket”), is just one more reason thsat FEMINISM IS FOR EVERYBODY!!!

  • freetobe

    i would have loved if my daughters father would have loved her and spent time with her! I paid him to take her on the weekends until my lawyer told me to stop for goodness sakes. i did it for her and him. (he left me by the way) He never sees his daughter. i would have gone to the ends of the earth to bring them together. I had a wonderful dad and think all children should have wonderful dads as well and my dad adopted me!

    The problem is that we let our emotions get in the way ON BOTH SIDES anger is an emotion. We have to really bite the bullet and think about the kids unless of course the father is abusive and or raping the kids. Same goes for the mothers.

    Unfortunately men are not tied to babies and children as we women are forced into. You tlak about force and or coersion of child support payments try being forced into a pregnancy then you can talk!! BIG DIFFERENCE

    I think it is fine if you want equal rights you already have more than enough I do not see the discrimination against men except for the child custody laws. As far as mens health goes. Don’t they have medicare and medicaid for men??? men can use family clinics???? Yes yes yes i also donated to prostate cancer research even though I have no need too. I am independent and self suffiecient was raised that way by my DAD!

  • beenthere72

    I don’t want to play the feminist game in its male version.

    Then why are you arguing about it? 

     

    At the link you provided on education:

    New York’s eight gifted high schools—Stuyvesant, Brooklyn Tech, etc.—have more boys enrolled than girls.

    I think we would agree that our education system needs to be overhauled.   And there’s something very wrong with all the defunding going on in our public education.   Listening to NPR recently, I learned about the Khan Academy.   If we acknowledge that boys and girls learn at different paces, and introduce a new approach that could address that, we might be a much better educated society overall.    I look forward to seeing how this new approach succeeds in the schools where they are implementing it.  

     

    As for men dying younger – personally, I can tell you right now that all the men in my life will not outlive the women unless we have some freak accidents.   I married into a large Portuguese family of beer swigging, motorcycle riding, greasy food eating, big bellied men.     My father has had broken ribs, minor strokes, and STILL doesn’t seek medical attention for it because he has too much pride or something.     His father, who had a very stressful job as a lawyer for a very prominent developer, died of a heart attack in his 40s.   His brother, a big man and long time smoker, dropped dead of a heart attack a few years ago.   It’s probably a miracle that my father is nearing his 80s, but I credit his active lifestyle and healthy diet that he’s still with us because my mother is just about the most stressful person to live with. 

     

    Instead of arguing with and blaming feminists, you should be arguing with your comrades to take better care of themselves, seek out alternatives or reform in education, research and demand prison reform that would stop putting big penalties on minor drug offenses.

     

    Finally, I am happy to hear that you are pro-choice.  My point was that there has been so much legislation put forth around the country that restricts our choice, while the same can not be said for men’s medical needs.    If lawmakers are so obsessed with the contents of our uteri, then you can understand why healthcare has a special focus on it too.    Women have a special ability that men will never have:  the ability to reproduce.     Your sperm doesn’t require special attention because frankly, most of you guys have a ton of them that swim just fine.     And you still have special doctors for that if they don’t. 

  • colleen

    Wouldn’t you want a man like that?

    No.