• adolmd

     

    Wake up. Badness is happening!  Time to wear a Silver Ribbon to show that you TRUST WOMEN with reproductive rights. 80% of the US supports a woman’s right to choose abortion. Wear a ribbon (make your own or donate and get one) and please like us on Facebook. The pin will strike up conversations that we need to have with our unaware friends.

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  • justconservative-girl

    You are batshit crazy. 

     First and foremost, not raising the debt ceiling never meant automatic default on the debt.  It meant that for the first time in more than a generation the government would actually have to live within its own means.  Something that the rest of us have to do everyday. 

     

    For someone who thinks only the well educated in politics can be taken seriously at least get your facts straight. 

  • rambleann

    Is this is satire? Was this really written by a misogynist to make women look bad? This was linked to by Instapundit where I am sure they are having a laugh. 

  • brucemcf

    Regarding: “Congress came to a deal before we had to learn those Depression-era money-saving skills” … the deal, both in what it includes and in what it omits, including no long term unemployment extension, should kill in excess of 1.5m jobs and remove more growth in 2012 than we are likely to have in 2011. And since the two growth drivers for this sluggish recovery are exports and consumer durables, and since consumer durables will dry up when the news of the new downturn hits … that’s not a “brief dip”, or “softness in the numbers”, but a full fledged recession.

    Add the financial turmoil when the functionally insolvent mega-banks ~ and, remember, we “fixed” the problem of Too Big To Be Allowed To Fail banks by financing their ability to take over better run medium sized banks ~ and it has the makings of a deep recession.

    And two successive recessions without real unemployment ever getting below 10% ~ that’s a Depression.

    The choice that we were faced with on Monday was entrenching a Depression now, or waiting until the election year to get it entrenched.

    If we do not get firebrand left populists running against some of these Take Everything Away Party right populists, I fear for the retention of the democratic institutions need to fight back.

  • rebellious-grrl

    Who’s “batshit crazy?” It’s amazing to me how conservatives have selective memories and can’t remember the spending spree that took place during the W. Bush II years. The government DID NOT live within its means during the W. Bush years. During that time we waged two unfunded wars, and never paid for Medicare Part D. Under W. Bush the government borrowed money to pay for the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Abortion politics are most certainly involved in federal and state level budget debates. For example the state of Minnesota’s last budget debate that shut down the government and a recent national budget debate to defund Planned Parenthood.

    So when the batshit crazy Republicans can ACTUALLY and not rhetorically live within their means they should keep their mouths shut about living within their means like normal people. Amanda is spot on with this one again.

  • crowepps

    The debt ceiling is an artificial barrier set to alert government when the price for the things that Congress has already agreed to buy goes over the ‘credit limit’ on the card.  Refusing to raise the debt ceiling does indeed mean the the government is defaulting on its debts, because the government will be unable to make payments on either the money that it has borrowed and must pay back with interest, or if it shifts money around to make its loan payments will default on the other debts that it is obligated to pay like paychecks to federal and military employees for work already performed, payouts to Social Security, disability or veterans beneficiaries, or paying bills for work already performed by doctors, hospitals and contractors which the government has promised to pay when the bills arrive.  Defaulting means you can’t pay SOME of your bills, and it doesn’t matter which bills.

     

    “Government” cannot live within its means because the average American wants government to continue to provide his/her own personal federal benefits like mortgage insurance and bank deposit guarantees and student loans and supervision of drug safety and to continue Social Security and provide Medicare, but wants someone ELSE to have THEIR benefits cut.

  • maiac

    “First and foremost, not raising the debt ceiling never meant automatic default on the debt”

    Okay, this is my frustration with the ultra-right-wing-burn-it-all-down-tea-baggers:a basic lack of grasp on the generally accepted nature of reality.

     

    In this particular case, I think “just a conservative girl” may be falling victim to the same metaphorical confusion that I think explains why the crazy House Republicans pushing this are more stupid than self-destructive. Check it out – here’s my theory:

    Some well-meaning aide of lobbyist was attempting to explain the nature of the debt ceiling to Bachman, et al. In an effort to draw a familiar analogy, they compared raising the debt ceiling to raising a credit card limit. Bachman, et al were swept away by the elegance of the metaphor and wrong-headedly believed that the debt ceiling was actually that simple. I really think they truly (and idiotically) believe that refusing to raise the debt ceiling will curb spending. I genuinely do not think these nut bags understand that’s NOT HOW IT WORKS.

     

    Sometimes I wonder how much trouble metaphors get us into….

  • crowepps

    Metaphors don’t get us into anywhere near as much trouble as the stupidity of the people who make using them necessary because they can’t understand actual facts.  Metaphors are an attempt to make complicated subjects comprehensive to uneducated people.  The cure is not to abandon metaphor but to require that our politicians, entrusted with the future of our country, not be complete idiots.

  • maiac

    I know that metaphors aren’t really causal here; I’m not suggesting that we abandon metaphors.

     

    But I am increasingly way of drawing inapt metaphors, and being at RH Reality Check makes me aware of that, becuase I think the MOST inapt metaphors are those we use for pregnancy. Becuase pregnancy is NOT like any of those metahpors; it’s just different. And until we get comfortable with that, we’re not going to be making effective reproductive justice arguments.

     

    I’m really just musing here; trying to work one of things that’s been tossing around in my head for a while…

  • crowepps

    It would sure help if we could get rid of the present inaccurate metaphor for pregnancy, where the woman is a ‘garden’ and her uterus is the ‘soil’ and the sperm is a ‘seed’ complete in and of itself that with her provision of ‘nutrition’ grows flawlessly into a perfect baby.  We have managed, mostly, to get rid of ‘miscarriages are caused by a jealous old woman’s evil eye’, ‘flaws in the baby are caused by mother’s bad thoughts’, and ‘crib deaths are caused by the fairies’.  Mostly.

    “What we now see now on the political landscape are not conservatives, but free-market fundamentalists who combine a hostility to beneficent government with the religious beliefs of medieval peasants.” Caroline Hamilton

    http://hnn.us/articles/140818.html

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