Santorum: Health of the Mother Is “Phony” Abortion Exception


VIDEO: Santorum: Health of the Mother Is “Phony” Abortion Exception

Pre-eclampsia? Cancer? Heart disease? None of these are real issues pregnant women might suddenly find themselves facing, according to presidential candidate Rick Santorum.

Pre-eclampsia?  Cancer?  Heart disease? None of these are real issues pregnant women might suddenly find themselves facing, according to presidential candidate Rick Santorum.  If a woman and her doctor decide that a pregnancy needs to be terminated in order for the mother to have the best chance of survival, especially in order to care for past or future children, well, apparently that’s just a “phony” reason for an abortion.  She should hold off all treatments until she gives birth instead, regardless of the risk, according to Think Progress.

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  • starrsitter

    This makes me want to punch something.

    OTOH at least he isn’t even pretending to care about women. That’s refreshingly honest.

  • crowepps

    I suppose the “phony reason” of saving the woman’s health sounds logical to someone who expresses the “phony reason” behind banning abortion of concern for the fetus.  After all, “my religion says so” or “woman ought to stay home and leave the real world for men” only appeal to fringe voters.  Since Santorum is unelectable, I would encourage him to publicize as many of the misogynistic, regressive, ‘human rights are only for wealthy white men’ conservative positions as possible.  It’s good to get what the Dominionists see as a wonderful future for our country out on the table for everybody to see.

  • bstow

    Santorum should be the equivalent for the word brainless—unless one can take in account that he is still a criminal and should not be allowed to run for any elected office—even dogcatcher. However, heartless could be inserted, or maybe people all over the USA need to take their families to Wash. DC, the ones who might lose Moms due to the Santorum method of governing and camp-out and demand every day for replacement Moms to help with the care of the children left behind. Government can do things for us.

  • klondikebar123

    When it’s his wife having the abortion to save her life.

     

    http://oursilverribbon.org/blog/?p=188

  • crowepps

    Karen, a soft-spoken red-haired 37-year-old, said that “ultimately” she would have agreed to intervention for the sake of her other children.

    “If the physician came to me and said if we don’t deliver your baby in one hour you will be dead, yeah, I would have to do it,” she said. “But for me, it was at the very end. I would never make a decision like that until all other means had been thoroughly exhausted.”

    Since I really love children, I can understand why she want to exhaust all other means.  The thing she seems to be missing, though, is that she and her husband were able to mutally make that decision in consultation with their doctors.  The idea that the law should intervene and take away the ability of other parents to make choices by forcing them all into a one-size-fits all, Karen and Rick and Pope approved solution is, frankly, just nuts.  People absolutely have a right to risk their own lives to accomplish their goals and martyr themselves if they choose to do so.  NOBODY has the right to FORCE someone else to sacrifice their life to uphold the religious principles of strangers.

  • colleen

    The thing she seems to be missing, though, is that she and her husband were able to mutally make that decision in consultation with their doctors. 

    Yes but she is a  self abnegating, submissive, church going, Good Woman, not a Bad Woman like those feminists with their phony abortions.

  • jennifer-starr

    Oh how I would love to turn Rick Santorum into a heavily pregnant woman with a health issue for Just One Day….

  • ahunt

    Actually, I’m certain that it will take the tragic, and entirely unnecessary death of some high profile woman/wife/daugher/sister of one of these stupid men to inform the populace of the insanity of the agenda. Probably, a  high profile “conversion” will be required.

     

    The death of numerous poor, anonymous women will be a matter of indifference to these assholes.

  • crowepps

    Ran across this today:

    When a miscarriage isn’t a fluke
    By Elizabeth Cohen, CNN Senior Medical Correspondent
    June 9, 2011 10:14 a.m. EDT
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/06/09/miscarriage.not.fluke.ep

    It deals with the advances in reproductive science that enable testing to be done to determine why repeated spontaneous abortions are occurring.  The woman’s history:

    But Arnold, who was 23 at the time, wasn’t going to be a mother, at least not yet. When she was eight weeks pregnant, she miscarried. A few months later she was pregnant again, and again she miscarried, this time at 10 weeks.

    Finally, she had a healthy baby girl, but then she miscarried twice more, including one pregnancy with twins. In all, Arnold had four miscarriages, losing five babies in less than three years.

    “I read a lot of books, and I learned there are tests you can do to see if there’s a reason you’re having a lot of miscarriages,” she says.

    Sounds like a win-win all around, right?  Wanted pregnancies – advances in medical science – spring into action and stop the agony!!
    Except, no, not at all.  The standard of practice is instead:

    “But my doctor said the miscarriages were just nature’s way, and we didn’t need to do any testing.”

    Her doctor told her it was inappropriate to do testing until she’d had three consecutive miscarriages without a live birth. …

    Dissatisfied with her obstetrician’s response, Arnold set out to find a doctor to do testing to find a cause for her miscarriages. She says doctor after doctor refused, citing the same three-consecutive-miscarriage “rule.”

    So apparently the doctors who refuse to prescribe birth control because there’s a one in a thousand chance it might prevent a blastocyst from implanting, doctors who tut-tut about ‘the dignity of the fetus’ when a woman wants to abort a fetus that’s grossly malformed and known to be nonviable, doctors who think women are just SELFISH for not turning their entire life upside down in order to follow doctor’s advice and “put baby first”, have no problem AT ALL with not bothering to do available tests to find out why a woman has an obstetric history of one live birth out of six conceptions.

     

    I have had two miscarriages myself and I remember very well the long lasting emotional trauma that they caused.  I particularly remember my incredulity at the facile and totally illogical explanation, “We don’t know why it happened but it won’t happen again.”  I just am ENRAGED by this obscene worship of some mythical “natural process” and the misogynistic attitude that while it’s totally immoral for WOMEN to be making any choices about their pregnancies there sure isn’t any urgent obligation on any PHYSICIANS part to bother to save wanted fetuses being lost unnecessarily so long as it isn’t HER idea.

     

    If everybody is so CONCERNED about how holy and important gestation is and every single unique, individual DNA combination, they would have tested after the FIRST miscarriage.  If they had done so, there were FOUR babies lost that could have otherwise been saved merely by mom taking an aspirin.  But testing was “inappropriate” because, golly, the doctors just don’t think repeated miscarriages are all that big a deal and women just tend to go all DRAMA QUEEN over a totally NATURAL process.

     

    I am so sick and tired of people bleating about “the precious lives of the innocent unborn” when they want to deny the woman her rights and agency, and then AT THE SAME TIME denying other women their agency and rights when they desperately want help by saying ‘so you had another miscarriage, it’s God’s plan, stop being all PUSHY.  Just get over it because ‘there was probably something wrong’.

     

    I agree there’s something seriously wrong, abut in my opinion, it’s the lousy, patronizing attitude of superstitious OB/GYNs who insist on treating women as though they are only mindless breeding stock.

  • ahunt

    Preach it Sister!  Two consecutive stillbirths after 3 relatively easy pregnancies was baffling, back in the eighties.

     

    These days, I would likely be “investigated”  by the panty sniffing “authorities” before any testing was ordered. Costs and all.

     

     

  • crowepps

    Actually, I’m certain that it will take the tragic, and entirely unnecessary death of some high profile woman/wife/daugher/sister of one of these stupid men to inform the populace of the insanity of the agenda.

    Why would a few daths make any difference?  I’m sure the Pope would fast-track her into sainthood, and after all, the men apparently find them interchangeable and easily replaced.  It’s not like any PARTICULAR women is all that unique or important.  Not compared to a FETUS!  After all, the fetus might be an actual PERSON — you know, male.

  • ahunt

    “Why would a few deaths make any difference?

     

     

    Snerk! 

     

    For the same reason  “weed” is being decriminalized. Whenever the UMC is impacted, suddenly the law is an ass!

     

    “You know…male.”

     

    Now, now…I’m pretty sure the POB’s are every bit as concerned about producing enough breeders.  It is business, after all.

  • crowepps

    It is absolutely insane that politicians want to investigate the cause of miscarriages because they suspect women might be causing them, and AT THE SAME TIME doctors that might be capable of finding out the reasons they happen shrug their shoulders and wander off, uninterested, because, hey, when it comes to women we don’t want to meddle with God’s Plan!  There apparently isn’t anybody interested in actually helping women.  Since, you know, reproduction is icky, and ‘everybody knows’ women are inherently evil liars who hate children and want to become lesbian witches, blah, blah, blah.

     

    I’ve got to tell you, reading this woman’s story literally made me weep.  It was outright EVIL for those doctors to have treated her that way.  She deserves enormous appreciation for her persistence and her courage in starting that sixth pregnancy that finally was successful.

  • catseye71352
  • concerned-feminist

    Good grief, what next?

     

     STDs are a “Phony” reason to use condoms?

  • crowepps

    The Pope said year before last the spread of HIV/AIDS is worsened by condoms.

    The pontiff, speaking to journalists on his flight, said the condition was “a tragedy that cannot be overcome by money alone, that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which even aggravates the problems”.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/17/pope-africa-condoms-aids

    Or if you’d prefer a “can’t believe my own eyes” report:

    http://howgoodisthat.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/the-pope-says-condoms-cause-hiv-aids-catholic-charity-worker-agrees-by-ranting-uncontrollably-on-live-tv/