Dispelling a Myth: Domestic Violence & The Super Bowl


The hype is inescapable.  If you’re not watching the big game on Sunday, chances are you’ll be hearing it deconstructed afterward along with commentary on the half-time show and the commercials.

If you’re paying attention, you’re also hearing a steady stream of commentary designed to cast aspersions on those of us who are working to stop domestic violence and help victims.  It’s skillfully and cleverly constructed — and utterly without basis in fact.

Here’s the truth:  In 1993, the Super Bowl and domestic violence became linked when a small group of advocates erroneously claimed that Super Bowl Sunday was a “day of dread” for women when domestic violence skyrocketed.  There’s no reliable evidence to support that claim and most of us who work in the field say that – over and over again.  Instead, we make the point that domestic, dating and sexual violence are serious problems every day of the year. 

The movement has spent the past 18 years saying that these claims aren’t true, at every opportunity.  We urge reporters not to write that story, and the responsible ones don’t.

But opponents won’t let it go.  They use it as a way to bash feminists, “bleeding heart liberals,” women, and what they call the “domestic violence industry” – a term that is truly laughable when you realize that they are talking about shelters that struggle to afford food and bedding for desperate women and children, and to keep their doors open in this recession.

A few years ago on Super Bowl weekend, George Will brought it up out of nowhere on ABC’s “This Week,” as an example of what he called feminist nonsense.  And last week, the Heritage Foundation scheduled a news conference with Christina Hoff Sommers and Phyllis Schlafly to deconstruct the “Super Bowl hoax” that the “domestic violence industry” perpetuates.  It was rescheduled due to the blizzard for later this month, but the announcement alone has generated another round of commentary belittling the scope of the problem of violence against women. 

So let me say this one more time, on behalf of the Family Violence Prevention Fund and our colleagues across this field:  There is NO conclusive, national research to validate claims that domestic violence escalates on Super Bowl Sunday.  But domestic, dating and sexual violence are serious problems every day, in every community. 

At a time when the Justice Department reports that four to five women are murdered by their partners every day –  the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that domestic violence causes two million injuries a year – and hundreds of women and children are raped and sexually assaulted each day – let’s put this conversation to rest.

Helping survivors of violence, identifying and implementing effective prevention programs, and changing social norms is hugely challenging.  So instead of dredging up an incident from 1993 to discredit our work, how about helping find ways to stop the violence and keep the next generation safe?  Let’s use the Super Bowl as a chance to have conversations about how to do that.

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  • malematters

    Here’s what the domestic-violence propagandists are careful to omit:

    If women, without provocation, batter and kill children, whom they’ve supposedly been socialized to love, they can, without provocation, batter and kill men, whom they’ve been socialized — by the media, feminist literature, and domestic-violence propagandists — to distrust, fear, and hate.

    If we don’t take women’s violence and abuse as seriously as we take men’s, why should we take women’s opinions as seriously as we take men’s? After all, according to ideological feminists’ own — and correct — definition of hate crimes, an act of violence is merely an opinion acted out, a view transformed into behavior. 

    See “An Open Letter to the Judiciary Committees on the Violence Against Women Act” at http://tinyurl.com/czeulo

     

  • arekushieru

    Feminist literature?  Uh, no, you want the Patriarchal Indoctrination faculty.  That’s next door. 

    Men commit acts of violence by FAR greater numbers than women do.

  • josephm

    Esta answers the question in her article, which quotes the number of women who are murdered by their partners, but not men who are murdered by theirs. Does Esta believe that men are second rate citizens, not deserving of equal protection under the law?  Since she can advocate programs on “violence against women” can we assume that she thinks that men’s lives are worthless?  If her son were to be killed by a girlfriend or wife, she would have no problem there?

     

    If the feminist myth of Superbowl Sunday were an isolated case, it might be dropped. But the reason that it needs to be kept in the public consciousness is because it is part of a spectrum of misinformation that has been perpetuated by feminists over the past decades.  Consider other feminist falsehoods, such as “1 in 4 women is a victim of rape.” And then look at how this leads to mass hysteria which inevitably comes down to violence against men in the form of false charges of rape and sexual assault–the Duke University Three is simply the tip of this iceberg.  But then this is to be expected in a society which devalues men’s lives, and which make women into a privileged caste, worthy of special protections simply because of their sex. 

     

     

    Men commit acts of violence by FAR greater numbers than women do.

     

    Just as women lie about being raped more than men do. But this is not an excuse to deprive women of equal protection under the law. And that is what this is all about. By playing the woman-as-victim card, feminists manipulate male legislators into passing laws which give women additional rights while treating men as second class citizens.

     

    Is that the sexual equality which is being demanded?  

     

     

  • arekushieru

     

    Esta answers the question in her article, which quotes the number of women who are murdered by their partners, but not men who are murdered by theirs. Does Esta believe that men are second rate citizens, not deserving of equal protection under the law?  Since she can advocate programs on “violence against women” can we assume that she thinks that men’s lives are worthless?  If her son were to be killed by a girlfriend or wife, she would have no problem there?

    Um, did a few brain cells skip you when you were born?  If you haven’t noticed, RHReality Check is an organization that supports women’s issues which tend to be the issues that are more prevalent yet more commonly ignored, more than the less prevalent male issues.  There are any NUMBer of sites you can visit that deal strictly with the ‘poor male victims’, though.  Derrr….

     

    If the feminist myth of Superbowl Sunday were an isolated case, it might be dropped. But the reason that it needs to be kept in the public consciousness is because it is part of a spectrum of misinformation that has been perpetuated by feminists over the past decades.  Consider other feminist falsehoods, such as “1 in 4 women is a victim of rape.” And then look at how this leads to mass hysteria which inevitably comes down to violence against men in the form of false charges of rape and sexual assault–the Duke University Three is simply the tip of this iceberg.  But then this is to be expected in a society which devalues men’s lives, and which make women into a privileged caste, worthy of special protections simply because of their sex. 


    Proof, please, that more violence is committed against men BY women. Proof, please, that 1 in 4 women are NOT a victim of rape.  Rape being nonconsensual sex, of course.  If you, and your ilk, can’t understand that, is it any WONder that so many instances of rape go unreported?  If rape apologists, such as yourself, demonize, stigmatize and ridicule claims of rape, as you are doing, here, is it any wonder that so many instances go unreported?  (And, please note: If false charges of rape and sexual assault are forms of violence then rape is even moreso.  Can’t have it both ways, ‘sweetheart’.)  Btw, can you PROVE these rape charges were false?  If you think someone who is acquitted is always innocent, then you must think someone who is convicted is always guilty.  But the evidence doesn’t bear this out.  Haven’t you ever heard of The Innocence Project? They have dedicated their lives to proving many convictions false.  And, if that is true, then there are also false acquittals. Back to that old truism, can’t have your cake and eat it, too. Nor does a system comprised of humans, have limited chances of error.  I would say there is UNlimited chances for that.  Surprising that you wouldn’t know this.  But, now, given that, please do tell me how many false rape accusations are ACTually made….  Rape, and the following accusations, damage a person’s reputation, physical and mental health, etc… FAR more than false claims of rape/sexual assault do.  Surprising that you also wouldn’t know this, since, being a rape apologist, you should be in a position to know just how stigmatized rape still is.  Society devalues women’s lives.  Men are just feeling the fallout of their privilege. SO sad.  They ARE worthy of special protections precisely beCAUSE those protections are NOT in place for them, as they are for men, alREADy.  DUH.

    Just as women lie about being raped more than men do. But this is not an excuse to deprive women of equal protection under the lawAnd that is what this is all about. By playing the woman-as-victim card, feminists manipulate male legislators into passing laws which give women additional rights while treating men as second class citizens. 

    Again, please provide proof.  Would you rather we treat women as the rest of society does, a society that includes yourself, obviously, and claim that their accusations of rape are far more egregious than the act of rape, itself?  That rape claims should be treated less seriously than false rape accusations?  That a woman wasn’t REALLY raped unless she fought back and has the bruises, cuts and battered look to prove it? That no prostitute or ‘loose woman’ can be raped?  That even all those who do pass your bar’s high standards, mustn’t act, but at least look, like they’re victims or they’ll be shunned?  Wow, and you wonder why women NEED to be given extra protections??  Need them, otherwise they would be considered LESS than human, rather than first class citizens who merely THINK they are second-class citizens, as MRAs most often do (probably because they’ve finally been forced to take responsibility for their actions, the very first time).  

  • datasnake

    Here’s a suggestion on the “false reports vs real rape” front: how about a law making it illegal to reveal the identity of someone accused of a sex crime unless and until they are convicted? Women who had been raped would still get justice, and men who were falsely accused wouldn’t have their good names tarnished. As to which is worse, rape or false accusations, BOTH are completely unacceptable. Rape because, well, it’s rape, and false accusations because in addition to ruining an innocent man’s reputation, they make it harder for REAL rape victims to be believed.

  • carolyninthecity

    No one here is advocating that violent crimes against men not be taken seriously, or that they don’t happen. Feminists know that rape happens to men too. We know that domestic violence happens to men too. It is just as important that a man have the resources and support to escape an abusive situation as a woman has. However, the reason that domestic violence and rape are labelled as women’s issues is that the overwhelming majority of cases,  a woman is the victim of these crimes. 

    Rape is fasly reported at about the same rate as other crimes:

    http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/false-rape-allegations-are-rare/

     

    False accusations are not a problem specifc to the crime of rape. They happen for all crimes. This idea that Men’s Rights groups perpetuate that there’s thousands of poor bastards sitting in a jail cell, or on the sex offender registry because their ex-girlfriend wanted some post-break up revenge and accused them of rape couldn’t be further from the truth. And is deeply insulting. 

     

    rights aren’t a zero-sum game. Support for women doesn’t mean lack of support for men. I really wish people like Joseph_M would realise that trolling feminist blogs , accusing all women of being liars and misandrists is not helping anyones cause. 

     

     

  • johnhamel

    Yes, of course there are many responsible feminists who have consistently debunked the super bowl myth.  And yes, of course there are male victim advocates who will exploit this issue to their advantage.  So, what else is new?  When advocates, whether male of female, are very zealous about their cause, they willl advance it in any way they can, even if that means playing fast and loose with the facts. The reality is that of course men are more aggressive than women.  Men commit the vast majority of violent crimes everywhere in the world.  Men also commit the vast majority of rapes.  This is an obvious fact that need not be debated.  John Archer of the University of Central Lancashire, found that men are also somewhat more verbally abusive than women.  However, these statistics pertain to men’s behavior OUTSIDE THE HOME.  In the home, there is undisputed evidence that, in industrialized Western countries such as the United States, male and female partners physically assault each other at equal rates, and engage in comparable levels of emotional abuse and power and control.  (I realize that the latter claim regarding power and control is controversial, but recent research is pretty solid on this.  If you think otherwise, you simply are not up to date with the latest research.)  Also true is that the effects of emotional abuse and control tend to be greater on both males and females than the effects of physical abuse.  All this does not mean that everything is “the same” in domestic violence.  Women are two times more likely to suffer physical injuries, and three times more likely to be killed or suffer injuries serious enough to require medical attention.  For these reasons, and the fact that women are less likely overall to have the financial means to leave an abuser, there will always be a greater need for shelter services for women.  And let’s not forget that in non-Western countries, women are far more abused than are men, both physically and sexually, by their partners.  So, I for one “get it” that women are the most likely victims of domestic violence, but there are very good reasons why we should listen to male victim advocates, even if they – like their feminist counterparts – sometimes ovestate their case. 

  • squirrely-girl

    … if it were equitably applied to ALL crimes. You don’t just get to pick and choose which crimes you want protect the accused and which you don’t.

     

    Also, it may help to keep in perspective that the FBI has repeatedly asserted that the rate of false allegations for rape is equivalent to false allegations of other violent crimes. Where is your outrage on behalf of all the other accused? 

     

     

  • datasnake

    I actually agree. I just wanted to stay on topic.

  • ack

    You do realize that the myth she’s addressing refers to violence against women on Super Bowl Sunday, right?

     

    And yes, cite your sources for your challenge to rape statistics. To be fair, you’re not quoting it correctly; 1 in 4 college aged women experience an attempted or completed rape by the time they graduate. Over a lifetime for the general population, 1 in 6 experience an attempted or completed rape (2.8% and 14.8%, respectively.)

  • john-doorn

    Would you be willing to seek legislation in all states to mandate that any person accused of making a false allegation, be forced to face prosecution and punishment commensurate to the maximum penalty the falsely accused would have faced? Would you be willing to seek legislation in all states to make paternity fraud punishable by financial judgments equal to or greater than the child support judgments ordered, once the affected child reaches the age of majority, or sooner, if the false accuser is capable of paying?

    And most importantly, would you be willing to demand that Title IV-D funding (such as the billions of taxpayer dollars presently provided to sponsor children’s welfare and financial support, VAWA, etc.) be made available to reimburse governmental agencies in exchange for providing protection to the falsely accused and to enforce child visitation with the noncustodial parent?

    If local government had incentive to hunt down the false accuser with the same determination as it presently exercises towards abusers (both actual abusers and the falsely accused), a number of outcomes would arise. First, the number of accusations would drop (perhaps precipitously) as making a false allegation now carries a price (instead of a reward). Second, those of us men who speak from an equally wronged position (the falsely accused) would be silenced. And third and most importantly, with less governmental intervention, especially where it was never needed, our children will thrive.

    Of course, there will be those from the feminist camps that will complain that such policies would cause some of the abused to be refrain from seeking protection (for fear of being charged with making a false accusation) and thus, remain in an abusive condition. I would not assert that such a concern is warrantless, but I believe that many of those who would espouse such a position are more focused on keeping control and power over others than they are championing the rights of the abused (thus their unwavering ignorance and refusal to recognize the plight and suffering of the falsely accused).

    Whose role in society is more important, the man or the woman’s? Are the rights of the abused any more or less important (and worthy of enforcement) than those of the falsely accused (who, let’s admit it, is also a victim of abuse)? Who among you out there believe the abused deserve protection to the point where the falsely accused warrant little or no protection? The point I am trying to make is that any effort that strives towards equality more often than not leads to progress in society. It’s not about one gender having power over the other, or the individual staying at home (whether the man or the woman) being less important or relevant than the breadwinner, or the abused suffering a greater wrong than the falsely accused. If we truly wish to put an end to abuse, then we need to recognize (and champion) right over wrong. You must include recognition of false accusations and empowering government to suppress it as a cornerstone of your overall fight against abuse. To do anything less only shows that you have an agenda.

    Lawlessness, left unchecked, only leads to greater lawlessness. Men are becoming more aware than ever of the effects false accusations have had on their numbers. And as women more and more often find themselves in the position of primary wage-earner, what assurances do women have that the government will protect them from these same laws (note that most, if not all, domestic violence and family laws have been written in gender-neutral language, yet Congress has established programs that provide greater financial reimbursement to local government, when the lesser wage-earner receives the benefit, nearly always the woman in days past, but less so as we move forward).

    We need to work together, to stop abuse of all sorts. If not, we will remain in this present stagnant condition, with victims in both columns. And the abusers and false accusers out there will be free to do what they do best. Is this what we are fighting for?

  • jo

    John,

    Coming from a public health perspective (not to mention a human rights one), punishment DOES deter reporting. No agenda needed.

     

    Coming from a scientific point of view, research confirms false allegations are no more prevalent in cases of rape or domestic violence than any other crime. Got evidence – credible research? Post it.

    Actually research from Bala & Schumann find MEN make more false allegations than women. Are YOU ready to punish more men than women? Because I don’t think that’s where you’re coming from. 

    As well, there are more deniers than liars. Abusers DONT admit abuse. Ever hear anyone talk about the abuse they levied against their spouse or child? IN the majority of cases, the abuser  will minimize the abuse, claim it’s mutual, or lay the blame on the other party. Like an alcoholic, abusers don’t often repent until they admit their problem – which is RARE.

    What would you say to mothers like Katie Tagle who had 3 judges deny her a restraining order b/c they thought she was lying to deny access to the father? Judge Lemkau (transcript on Internet) called HER a liar. Result? He gave the father custody, they drove into the mountains, and 10 days later Baby Wyatt (9 mos old) and the father were both found dead in a murder-suicide.

    HOw about Dr. Amy Castillo. The Judge believed her husband (previously institutionalized, broke doors & windows in home ) to DR. AMY CASTILLO – Pediatrician. Result? Husband drowned their 3 kids to get back at her.

    There are MANY more cases, sadly.

     

    You are fooling no one. We know women’s credibility suffers – to the point that further abuse and murder occur.

    My brother was a corrections officer – the idea that there are all these innocent men languishing in jail is laughable. The Innocence Project doesn[‘t even list false allegations as a reason for wrongful imprisonment so you guys are coming out of left field to punish women and set back gains made in protection from these personal crimes.

    If we actually did punish abusers – and not allow impunity - well-documented how lenient we are – maybe, just maybe, people would stop injuring and killing the ones they reportedly love.  

     

    And, John – speaking of federal laws- how about giving milions of dollars to ex-prisoners in the FAtherhood INitiative - precious federal money going to CONVICTS – MEN ONLY at that.  

    But, then again, you want to protect those convicts, don’t you?

  • arekushieru

    Umm, being falsely accused and raped are in NO way equivalent.  But neither are we ignoring it, and, if you had actually read any of the other commentary on this thread, you would have realized it.  And false rape accusations are made FAR more rarely than you obviously believe.  And rape is, in turn, believed, prosecuted and criminalized FAR more rarely than you, also, believe.

    It IS about patriarchal ideology.  Because patriarchal ideology facilitates BOTH ends of the spectrum, false rape accusations AND disbelief of actual rape claims.

    Also, when you make a claim, please back it up. 

    Primary wage-earners?  I not only think we have a long way to go before women will be the majority in that position, but, that that is esPECially true before women will be the primary wage-earners with pay-equity and non-primary caregiver positions, at home, as well.  

    Umm, just because one-gender may fill the lower-paid positions on the wage-scale, at any given time, doesn’t mean the laws aren’t gender-neutral, btw. This is simply reimbursement based on financial resources.  Simple as that.

  • arekushieru

    I mostly agree with your comment, except for the part about “precious federal money going to CONVICTS”.   I don’t care if the money goes to them based on their status.  I only care if it goes to them based on whether their efforts go to minimizing even further the protective gains women have made in past years.  A fine distinction, I know, but an important one and one that needs to be made, imho.

  • datasnake

    …but I googled “fatherhood initiative” and it doesn’t seem very objectionable. If anything, it’s a GOOD thing to try and get men to take responsibility for raising children. The more men start pulling their own weight, the less credible the “women should be relegated to stay-at-home mothering while the men go hang out with their buddies” cliche becomes. Is there something about this that I’m missing?

  • john-doorn

    I should post data backing up my position? Fine! Go to http://www.mediaradar.org/. I’d suggest everyone else go there as well, you will find all the data you  need right there. And might I ask, where’s your data? Or are you exempt from the same measure of scrutiny?

    Sorry for being so confrontive but I hope I’m making a point here. I would rather we all ’build bridges’ so that we can combine our efforts and end ALL forms of abuse. When we attack one another (or any other group for that matter), we make it easy for the casual reader here to see msot clearly where the true hate is directed from.

    By the way, I take false accusations seriously because I was falsely accused. For thirteen years, I was physically and mentally abused by my wife. I stayed in the marriage for far too long for what I thought were the best interests of our six children. I now know I was wrong. She eventually found herself a millionaire boyfriend and it was most expedient for her use the ‘first to accuse’ strategy (false accusations) so she could easily dispose of me with the blessing of the courts.

    Twelve years have now passed since our divorce and you can now tally up the carnage. Over $300K of legal expenses from my end alone, six emotionally abused children who were for the most part deprived of a father for the past ten years (despite a 30% timeshare ordered but never reasonably enforced by the court), and now, one disgraced and forcibly retired judicial officer. One adult son is a chronic alcoholic, one daughter a high school dropout, and one of the remaining minor children well on his way to being a dropout as well. All raised almost entirely by one angry mother more than willing to abuse her children with made up tales about their father.

    The court record shows that there was never evidence of any abuse on my part, a number of warnings against the mother for her repeated allegations, a charge of perjury against the mother (for financial misrepresentation, she hid over $100K of assets from the court), an admission of illegal entry into my residence by the mother and a resultant protective protecting me from her, and those six destroyed childhoods.

    Do you still want find it essential to protect those who would falsely accuse? Or are you willing to be open minded and take a stand against ALL forms of abuse. More often than not, it is not just the falsely accused who suffer. Many times there are innocent children as well. Do you harbor ill will towards them as well?

  • john-doorn

    Jo, if I might answer you on this.

    No, I do not have more empathy for the accused than the abused! I have six children, four of them now adults who were deprived of their childhoods and a father as a result of false accusations.

    These children endured continual emotional battery from their mother so that she could ensure they did not desire a relationship with their father. 

    One such tale of abuse I received account of, not just from former friends of my ex, but also from my children themselves, was the following ….

    Whenever I would arrive at the house to pick up my children for visitation, my ex would yell at them telling them to consider what type of father I was. That she had to go out to sex parties and have sex with multiple men in order to support them, and that I did not pay child support. (She had no reported source of income, yet was able to come up with a $100K down payment on a house within six months and maintain a $7K mortgage payment on a house in a very upscale community, on only a $4K child support payment).

    I stopped trying to exercise my visitation when I realized the abuse they were suffering as a result of my efforts to stay involved in their lives and the court’s unwillingness to do anything substantive about the abuse that was reported by myself and others (the Court gave the truth less consideration than the false accusations from the mother). I stopped being their father when I realized that act was the kindest gesture I could make towards them, to stop the abuse.

    In actuality I did pay child support. For the majority of time, more than 60% of my take home pay (for the first three years, 74% of take home, and more than $4000/mo.). I am now and except for times of unemployment have been current on my support. I presently pay $2200/mo. for two children I never see and have no relationship with (not by court order, but rather, the mother’s will). And I do this while unemployed (the last of my stock options from my last position will soon be exhausted and the child support courts refused to lower my support obligation when I was laid off from my last job).

    It’s not just the false allegations that are troublesome to me. It’s all the other garbage that follows and the innocent victims it leaves in it’s wake .

    Do you have a son? Would you prefer he be treated in this manner?

  • arekushieru

     

     

    More often than not, it is not just those who are raped who suffer.  And, of course, let the mansplainin’ and avoidance of contrary evidence (contrary evidence that one has asked for, remember), begin.


    Sorry for being so confrontive but I hope I’m making a point here. I would rather we all ’build bridges’ so that we can combine our efforts and end ALL forms of abuse. When we attack one another (or any other group for that matter), we make it easy for the casual reader here to see msot clearly where the true hate is directed from.

    No one is attacking you.  We are merely pointing out the differences of prevalence between either form of abuse, differences which you seem not to be aware of.  There is no ‘true hate’, only your stubborn avoidance of the contrary evidence, which you continue to ignore.

    I should post data backing up my position? Fine! Go tohttp://www.mediaradar.org/. I’d suggest everyone else go there as well, you will find all the data you  need right there. And might I ask, where’s your data? Or are you exempt from the same measure of scrutiny?

     You are the one making the initial claim.  The burden of proof is on you, right now.  Besides, that isn’t what I asked for.  I wanted you to back up your claim that feminists ‘who would espouse such a position are more focused on keeping control and power over others’.  How did you come by this assumption?  THAT’s what I wanted to know.

    Do you still want find it essential to protect those who would falsely accuse? Or are you willing to be open minded and take a stand against ALL forms of abuse. More often than not, it is not just the falsely accused who suffer. Many times there are innocent children as well. Do you harbor ill will towards them as well?

    I see you’ve taken the position that anyone who doesn’t treat false accusations of rape just as seriously as rape claims, automatically harbors ill will towards the men who are falsely accused or the children involved.  Did you ever once stop to think that this is exactly true of rape claims, too, in far greater numbers?  Or that it is very difficult to balance rights in such a manner, that something with less prevalence is treated exactly the same as that with more prevalence, without causing a backlash against the latter? 

     

  • arekushieru

    Whenever I would arrive at the house to pick up my children for visitation, my ex would yell at them telling them to consider what type of father I was. That she had to go out to sex parties and have sex with multiple men in order to support them, and that I did not pay child support. (She had no reported source of income, yet was able to come up with a $100K down payment on a house within six months and maintain a $7K mortgage payment on a house in a very upscale community, on only a $4K child support payment).

    If this was an attempt to disprove your wife’s claims, it doesn’t add up, unfortunately.  

    No, I do not have more empathy for the accused than the abused! I have six children, four of them now adults who were deprived of their childhoods and a father as a result of false accusations.

    She wasn’t referring to third-party victims.  She was referring to rape victims.

    (the Court gave the truth less consideration than the false accusations from the mother)

    *Gasp* How dare they, right???  Not so, when you consider that this is exACTly what many rape victims have to endure.  

  • mechashiva

    Every time there is an article about domestic violence, this site gets swarmed by “men’s rights advocates.” Every single time, it’s the same damn thing. Men are raped too! Women are liars! Women kill their kids! Men are treated like second-class citizens!

     

    This time it happened when we debunked a common myth about domestic violence that would (if believed) make men and “male culture” look bad. Are you fucking kidding me? What the hell do any of you have to complain about with this article? Nothing. You’re just a bunch of fucking trolls.

  • rebellious-grrl

    We’ve watched this troll train wreck before.

  • goatini

    “mediaradar” is an MRA propagandist website.  RADAR is an acronym for, get this, “Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting”.  

    The irony is that before feminists fought to bring the issue of DV into public awareness, no “MRA” group cared one bit about DV against men, or bothered to donate a dime to help male victims or get laws passed, and still to this day men and traditional men’s groups are unlikely to donate time or money in the amounts that women do to combat DV of any kind within the system. It was a non-issue to men until women started raising the Social Consciousness about the issue, investing their time and labor in the cause, and not until women started to get help did some bitter men start to whine about not getting THEIR “share”.  

    If men’s rights activists want to help abused men, they need to do what women have been doing for decades for abused women – do the legwork; apply for funding; open shelters for abused men. In other words, do the work to create the shelters themselves. Why are feminists and women’s shelter workers expected to do the work for them?

    For actual research on violence against women, please refer to Eve Ensler’s wonderful V-Day website.  The link below provides links to the best web sites at which to find and verify violence against women statistics:

    http://www.vday.org/node/1040

    Some statistics are more relevant, reliable or telling than others and similar statistics from different studies or reports can seem to conflict with one another. This is because there are several variables that affect the collection of data and the formulation of statistics: the size of a study’s sample, the duration of the study, how recent the study is, the location of the study, the words used in the questions, the definitions of key terms, among many other factors. So, when using any statistics, cite them accurately, use them in the appropriate context, and be aware of their vulnerabilities.