I’m a Catholic Latina and I’m on the Pill


RH Reality Check is participating in The Latina Week of Action for Reproductive Justice, an effort meant to raise awareness and spur dialogue about unique perspectives of and by Latina’s on reproductive justice. As part of this week, the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health is hosting a blog carnival, encouraging Latina bloggers to write posts about contraception (our theme) from their perspectives. The week of action runs August 9 to 15th.

Earlier this summer, NARAL released the results of a poll that it had commissioned in the Southwestern part of the country showing that 85 percent of Latinas support taking the birth control pill and 96 percent of Latinas think that family planning is a good thing.  The memo begins with this:

The media and some political commentators often perpetuate a persistent myth that Hispanics are more socially conservative than the rest of the U.S. population on the issue of abortion.  However, this study shows that while Latinas have mixed feelings on this topic, they are receptive to the idea of family planning and contraception and overwhelmingly oppose government intervention in women’s reproductive decisions, including abortion.

When I read these sentences, I found myself surprised at the findings of the study.  I realized that had been persuaded by the “persistent myth” that Latinas are predominantly Catholic, and as such they carry strongly anti-choice views (“choice” meaning the wide array of reproductive health decisions that a person can make).  But then I realized something else: wait a minute, I’m a Catholic Latina who is pro-choice.  I fall into that 96 percent of Latinas who approve of family planning and the 85 percent of Latinas who support taking the birth control pill.  In fact, I do use the birth control pill for reasons including controlling my fertility.  Why then was I so surprised by these findings?  Why did I buy into stereotypes about my own demographic group, when I don’t even fit those stereotypes?

Perhaps I’ve been fed misinformation about Latinas over the years.  Perhaps I haven’t always identified as Latina, despite the fact that I emigrated from Argentina to the U.S. as a toddler.  Perhaps the research that NARAL (and other groups such as the Latina Institute) has done really is groundbreaking and so I had no way of knowing about this before.  Whatever the reason, here I was, a Catholic Latina who uses contraception, feeling surprised and fascinated that Latinas in general support and use contraception.

For me, it has been really important to begin asking questions about who we are as Latinas who support reproductive choice, and what our daily actions say about our identity as Latinas.  For example, when I take my birth control every night, am I…a Latina taking birth control?  An American taking birth control?  A Catholic taking birth control?  A law student taking birth control?  A 25-year-old taking birth control?  A consumer taking birth control?  A reproductive justice advocate taking birth control?  Someone’s girlfriend taking birth control?  Someone’s daughter taking birth control?

In fact, I am all of those identities when I take birth control (and when I go shopping, and when I go to class, and when I watch The Daily Show, and when I lobby members of Congress, etc. etc.).  And I can’t help but wonder whether my decision to take control of my fertility and decide whether, when, and how I’m going to have children is a larger statement about what kind of Latina, American, Catholic, law student, 25-year-old, consumer, reproductive justice advocate, girlfriend, and daughter I am.  I think it is, and I hope that Latinas continue to explore how our identities intersect with and affect each other when we make reproductive decisions.  None of this happens in a vacuum, and we can no longer accept the stereotypes that are perpetuated about us.

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  • arekushieru

    Do you anti-choicers enJOY proving us ProChoicers right, every time?  First off, there is no such THING as the Lake of Fire (I AM saying this as a Christian, if you don’t believe me please read the passage where it states that the Lake of Fire was a thought that had never even entered into God’s head.  AND refer to the fact that the Lake of Fire represents something else enTIREly).  Secondly, there was no need to post such drivel unless you wanted to make the point that BC SHOULD be just as heinous as abortion, in the Catholic Church, all the while KNOWING that the former preVENTS the latter. 

  • catseye71352

    Idiot strikes again.

  • invalid-0

    Author,

     

    Pro-choicers may be more than happy to welcome in people who consider themselves to be Catholic doesn’t mean that Catholics will be welcoming of those who consider themselves to be pro-choice.  You can’t be Catholic and support one of its mortal sins, friend.

     

    I’d ask you to speak with your parish priest about this, but I’d be worried you probably don’t know where the nearest Catholic Church is.  

  • colleen

    You can’t be Catholic and support one of its mortal sins, friend.

    One cannot be Catholic and use the pill?

  • squirrely-girl

    I’m pretty sure birth control doesn’t fall under the list of mortal sins… perhaps venial?

  • kiddo

    From: Contraception: Fatal to the Faith

    What do we mean by the title and what is the thesis of this presentation? We mean that professed Catholics who practice contraception either give up the practice of contraception or they give up their Catholic faith. Needless to say, this is a startling statement that many would violently disagree with. They will point out the widespread practice of contraception among many–some would say the majority of professed Catholics in a country like the United States. They will quote from numerous professedly Catholic moral theologians openly defending contraception. They will give you the pronouncements of whole conferences of bishops who claim that contraception is really a matter of conscience. Those who sincerely believe that contraception is morally permissible may not be told they are doing wrong; they may not be debarred from receiving Holy Communion; in fact, they need not even have to confess the practice of contraception when they go to confession. We return to where we began, to make clear what we are saying. We affirm in this conference that the deliberate practice of contraception between husband and wife is objectively a mortal sin. Those who persist in its practice are acting contrary to the explicit teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. They may protest that they are Catholic. They may profess to be Catholics. But their conduct belies their profession.

  • ack

    I’m really curious about this. If a Catholic woman “confessed” to her priest that she was using contraception and refused to stop using it, would she be excommunicated? I’m wondering because I’d like to be excommunicated, but it’s really hard.

  • squirrely-girl
  • prochoiceferret

    Those who persist in its practice are acting contrary to the explicit teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. They may protest that they are Catholic. They may profess to be Catholics. But their conduct belies their profession.

     

    Of course, this is the same Catholic Church that privately countenanced the sexual abuse of minors, and doesn’t even consider it to be an excommunicable offense. So it seems to me that the Catholics “following their conscience” are the ones who truly embody ol’ Jesus’s Church.

  • sweetchild92

    So 1/3 of all American women are unwelcome?

  • colleen

    The number of women who use or have used effective contraception is considerably higher than 1/3. Indeed the # of Catholic women who use or have used the pill is something like 97%.

  • invalid-0

    100% of Catholics sin.  That doesn’t mean we support sin, promote it, or encourage the law to protect it.  Some Catholics enter homosexual relationships, use contraception, abort their children, steal, lie, cheat, abuse minors, etc.

    I understand that, and sinners are – more than anyone else – “welcomed” to the Church.  What we don’t welcome are people who seek to weaken or eliminate what the Church says and stands for – Catholics who claim that Catholics do not need to be pro-life, for instance.  Consider the following potential statements:

    “I’m a Catholic who doesn’t believe in the Real Presence of the Eucharist.”

    “I’m a Catholic who believes that rape is acceptable.”

    “I’m a Pro-Choice Catholic.”

    “I’m a Catholic who doesn’t need to go to Church every week.”

    None of those people are evil, unwanted or unwelcome by any means.  Indeed, there are occasional people at Mass who do have trouble believing the Real Presence, going every week, or are pro-choice or even have committed mortal sins.

    The author above isn’t writing in solidarity to other sinners.  She is promoting her viewpoint as an acceptable one within the Catholic community.  It is not.  If you want to be pro-choice, good for you.  But if you want to create an imaginary world where being Catholic and pro-choice are somehow reconcilable, you’ve got a major screw loose.

  • joanne

    It is wrong to use artificial contraceptive for the purpose of limiting births. That has always been a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church and always will be. The fact that many Catholics don’t accept it or don’t abide by it will not make it change. The Latina Week of Action for Reproductive Justice is nothing more than an effort to bring together as many dissenters as possible so they can convince each other that they are right and can ignore what their church teaches. They are being sadly misled. The strength of numbers does not make wrong right. The pill offers nothing of value to anyone. The practice of chastity and natural family planning within marriage is the way to achieve fulfillment and live a good life. By the way, for those concerned about health care costs, unlike the pill, NFP costs nothing, and has never had to be taken off the market because of its side affects.

  • prochoiceferret

    It is wrong to use artificial contraceptive for the purpose of limiting births. That has always been a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church and always will be.

     

    Yes, just like the buying of indulgences “has always been a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church and always will be.”

     

    I just think it’s funny that you think the elderly boy’s club currently occupying some expensive real estate in Rome is more fit to define what the teachings of the Church should be than the people who live Christ’s teachings every day.

  • prochoiceferret

    What we don’t welcome are people who seek to weaken or eliminate what the Church says and stands for

     

    So you’re not too happy about Pope Benedict either, I take it.

     

    Some Catholics enter homosexual relationships, use contraception, abort their children, steal, lie, cheat, abuse minors, etc.

     

    So much for people taking you seriously.

  • truth

    It is not difficult to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Your actions determine whether or not you are in communication with God.

     

    First of all, if a woman confessed to taking birth control and in that same confesssion did not agree to “amend her ways” then this would not be a valid confession. Furthermore, if a Catholic decides to live continually in the state of mortal sin they are Latae Sententiae. In laymen’s terms, they have excommunicated themselves by their actions.

     

    For those of you who don’t know the Act of Contrition:

     

    “O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I detest all my
    sins because I fear the loss of heaven and the pains of hell, but most of all because they offend Thee, my God, Who art all-loving and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to amend these sinful ways going forward and to avoid the near occasions of sin.”

     

    You see, unless you “amend” your sinful ways your confession is not valid. Clearly, if you confess and in that same confession you tell God that you’re not interested in turning from your sin then God cannot help you. You’ve essentially asked him to stay out of your life. Due to free will – God will begrudgingly abide.

     

     

    In closing, it matters not whether the entire world chooses to live in sin. What matters, to God, is whether you do.

  • prochoiceferret

    In closing, it matters not whether the entire world chooses to live in sin. What matters, to God, is whether you do.

     

    I’m pretty sure that having a conscience responsive to human needs, suffering, and happiness matters a lot more to God than dusty old Latin tracts like Humanae Vitae.

     

  • saltyc

    go

  • invalid-0

    Yes, just like the buying of indulgences “has always been a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church and always will be.”

    wOw, Zing! Man… Ferret got us on this one.  We SO used to do that 400 years ago.

    Yes, buying/selling indulgences is also wrong.  The “elderly boy’s club” agrees with that.

    I just think it’s funny that you think the elderly boy’s club currently occupying some expensive real estate in Rome is more fit to define what the teachings of the Church should be than the people who live Christ’s teachings every day.

    Correct.  That is our faith.  Christ vested decision-making authority in the Church fathers.  You don’t have to believe it.  You may think it’s funny if you wish, but that’s true.  Feel free to mock our beliefs.

  • invalid-0

    Unfortunately for you, the gospel according to Ferret is not the sole arbiter of what may be considered responsive to human suffering or happiness.  For instance, the dismemberment/destruction of fetal and embryonic humans seems to be fair game in your book.  Thankfully, the Vatican issues statements like Humanae Vitae which are far more well-informed to the human condition than yourself, hot shot.

  • invalid-0

    So much for people taking you seriously.

    …says Ferret, whilst casting the first stone.

    So you’re not too happy about Pope Benedict either, I take it.

    Ok, I give up.  Explain.

  • prochoiceferret

    Yes, buying/selling indulgences is also wrong.  The “elderly boy’s club” agrees with that.

     

    Well, I’m sure that came as a surprise to the random village-board posters 400 years ago, who said that indulgences “have always been a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church and always will be.”

     

    Christ vested decision-making authority in the Church fathers.  You don’t have to believe it.  You may think it’s funny if you wish, but that’s true.  Feel free to mock our beliefs.

     

    It seems to me that blindly following the successors of Peter, without holding them accountable for the suffering they have caused, is a far greater mockery of Christ’s teachings than one little ferret pointing out the emperor’s birthday suit.

  • prochoiceferret

    Thankfully, the Vatican issues statements like Humanae Vitae which are far more well-informed to the human condition than yourself, hot shot.

     

    Maybe it’s well-informed for the white-haired elderly can’t-get-it-up-anymore male human condition. For women, however, it can be a death sentence. That’s the kind of thing that suggests that the hand of Lucifer is behind it.

  • prochoiceferret

    …says Ferret, whilst casting the first stone.

     

    No, I’m pretty sure it was homosexuals and pro-choicers who were hit by stones first.

     

    Ok, I give up.  Explain.

     

    Well, Benedict not accepting the resignations of the Irish bishops involved in the child-abuse scandal there surely does “weaken or eliminate what the Church says and stands for,” don’t you think? What about treating the ordination of women priests as though it were as bad as the sexual abuse of minors? Or affirming that letting pregnant-9-year-olds-with-twins die instead of getting an abortion is indeed the most moral course of action?

     

    Seems to me Benedict has been doing quite a bit of that Church-undermining that you’re complaining about!

  • truth

    The name is indicitive of the size of your brain.

  • invalid-0

    Yes remind me to turn to you next time the Pope says something so I can get the more educated and wiser opinion on important issues of the day.  It must be crowded at your keyboard for both you and your ego to be typing.

    Seriously, you are either a genius – an untapped resource that the Catholic Church should turn to for wiser counsel than they’re currently getting… or you’re a ‘full of it’ cynic, who would rather accuse and criticize than work for reform.

  • invalid-0

    The article you linked to makes no reference to Humanae Vitae.

  • invalid-0

    Well, I’m sure that came as a surprise to the random village-board posters 400 years ago, who said that indulgences “have always been a fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church and always will be.”

    Cite, please.

    It seems to me that blindly following the successors of Peter, without holding them accountable for the suffering they have caused, is a far greater mockery of Christ’s teachings than one little ferret pointing out the emperor’s birthday suit.

    What was I thinking?!?  Clearly, I should not listen to these people at all because Queen Isabel sanctioned the deaths of heretics back in the 1200′s!  An Irish priest molested a little boy?  Well, if that’s the case, clearly the teachings of the Church are all moot.  A Pope sanctioned the Crusades, you say?  Well, then Christ must not have actually risen from the dead.

    one little ferret pointing out the emperor’s birthday suit

    Again, if your opinion of yourself was any higher, it’d need a parachute to get down.

  • prochoiceferret

    Seriously, you are either a genius – an untapped resource that the Catholic Church should turn to for wiser counsel than they’re currently getting…

     

    Oh no, I’m just a ferret. The Catholic laity, on the other hand, is certainly an untapped resource that the Catholic Church should turn to for wiser counsel than they’re currently getting.

     

    or you’re a ‘full of it’ cynic, who would rather accuse and criticize than work for reform.

     

    It’s nice of you to acknowledge, if offhandedly, that dissenters are out to reform the Church and not to destroy it.

  • prochoiceferret

    Cite, please.

     

    Sorry, but archives of the “Ye Olde Reality Cheque” message board from the late 17th century are a little hard to come by. When someone in 2410 demands a citation to the effect that people in 2010 would find it surprising if the Church ever ended its hate-fest on gays and women… they’ll probably have to do without, too.

     

    What was I thinking?!?  Clearly, I should not listen to these people at all because Queen Isabel sanctioned the deaths of heretics back in the 1200′s!  An Irish priest molested a little boy?  Well, if that’s the case, clearly the teachings of the Church are all moot.  A Pope sanctioned the Crusades, you say?  Well, then Christ must not have actually risen from the dead.

     

    Oh no, it’s not that bad. It’s only the teaching authority of the Church that has been eviscerated. All the stuff about Jesus, loving your neighbor, and giving glory to God remains intact.

     

    Again, if your opinion of yourself was any higher, it’d need a parachute to get down.

     

    Hey, it’s not like I live in a palace occupying the better part of my own micro-nation, or something.

  • colleen

    Way to go ferret!
    There’s nothing like the Christian ‘love’ of conservative Catholic males. Doesn’t it just make you want to convert?

  • jrm83

    The pill offers nothing of value to anyone.

    Really?  And here I thought it was treating my ovarian cysts!  Silly me.  I’m sure my gynocologist will be interested to discover that the medication she prescribed me isn’t doing me any good at all.

  • invalid-0

    Oh no, I’m just a ferret. The Catholic laity, on the other hand, is certainly an untapped resource that the Catholic Church should turn to for wiser counsel than they’re currently getting.

    I am Catholic laity.  

  • invalid-0

    Sorry, but archives of the “Ye Olde Reality Cheque” message board from the late 17th century are a little hard to come by. 

    Then don’t pass it off as if it were a fact, Captain Pretentious.  

  • bornin1984

    The name is indicitive of the size of your brain.

    Hah!

  • cmarie

    like the vast majority of Catholics I also believe that choices regarding contraception need to be made before sexual activity takes place.  This requires access to reliable birth control.  Choose to use it correctly or choose not to.  If you have any doubts about the effectiveness of your contraception, choose to use a back up method or choose not to.  Then choose to engage in sexual activity or choose not too.   With the obvious exception of rape (and even then emergency contraception failing) abortion never needs to enter the picture at all. That Planned Parenthood has maintained its “non profit” (tax exempt) status all these years is a disgrace and  something every American should be ashamed of.

    • sweetchild92

      How about you mind your own business?

  • arekushieru

    Do you mean indecisive or indicAtive?  Because the former IS more truthful and I think you would want to follow YOUR nickname just as strictly, right, Truth?  However, it’s unclear WHICH you meant.

  • arekushieru

    Hmmm, she passed it off as fact because it IS fact.  She, of course, was taking issue with your ‘cite’ request, which ISn’t THAT difficult to figure out….  *Sighs*

  • arekushieru

    That CPCs have maintained their status all these years, even THOUGH pregnancy is FAR more expensive than abortion ever is or will be, is a disgrace and something every American should be ashamed of.   Or, are you going to claim that that wasn’t what you were really complaining about, now?  Disingenuousness, thy name is ProLife/Catholic Fundamental? 

     

    Besides, take away PP’s services and you deny every woman access to services that preVENT abortion, so, then my next comment is, OF course:

     

    Making exceptions for rape, even when its under limited circumstances at THAT point, proves to me that it’s not really about life for ProLifers, esPECially Catholic ProLifers.  It’s about punishment for women who have consensual sex for purposes other than procreation.  Too sad.

  • arekushieru

    For instance, the dismemberment/destruction of fetal and embryonic humans seems to be fair game in your book.

    While the destruction of actual human beings, such as organ recipients, is of no matter to ProLifers, because they WILL not grant them the same right to life that they want granted to feoti.

  • pilar608

    When my friends and I were broke during and after college, Planned Parenthood is where we could get affordable birth control and annual exams.  For a couple gals, they provided STD and pregnancy testing, and would have provided STD treatment and prenatal care if they’d been needed.  Even after I got married, neither of us had health insurance, so I still used PP for my BC.  The local PP here provides no abortion services, actually, and they’re still very busy–which might be because 82% of their business is for pregnancy *prevention*.  Only about three percent of their business is abortion-related.

     

    And why should PP lose its non-profit status?  They provide desperately needed medical services (remember, 97% of their business is pregnancy prevention, STD testing and treatment, etc.) to people who otherwise couldn’t afford it.  For a lot of women, PP is the only regular access they have to medical care.  And yet, because you find a legal medical procedure that comprises less than five percent of their business to be immoral, you want to yank their non-profit status?  What possible good would that accomplish, other than drive *up* the abortion rate because so many women would be left without affordable contraceptive options?

  • arekushieru

    Well, other than to make women incubators, baby making machines and slaves to their uteruses, the birth control pill is the only other good option to preVENT abortion.  I thought the Catholic Church taught aGAINST abortion?  I thought catholicism taught aGAINST misogyny and hypocrisy, too, though…..

     

    Btw, why are you teaching people to go aGAINST the sanctity of marriage (AND the teachings of the Church) by telling those married couples who don’t want to or can’t naturally reproduce that they shouldn’t have sex?

  • prochoiceferret

    I am Catholic laity.

     

    Which just goes to show how wonderfully forgiving God can be!

  • prochoiceferret

    With the obvious exception of rape (and even then emergency contraception failing) abortion never needs to enter the picture at all.

     

    Except when contraception fails. Or when a wanted pregnancy goes wrong. Or when people don’t even know how to avoid the risk of pregnancy in the first place. Too bad the Catholic Church hasn’t been terribly helpful on the whole abortion-not-needing-to-enter-the-picture-at-all deal.

     

    That Planned Parenthood has maintained its “non profit” (tax exempt) status all these years is a disgrace and  something every American should be ashamed of.

     

    Sorry you don’t like paying taxes, but that’s kind of the price for living in a civilized society.

  • prochoiceferret

    The name is indicitive of the size of your brain.

     

    Morality’s not all that hard. Even a ferret-brained, uh, ferret like me can wrap his head around it. It’s cognitive dissonance that takes real brain-power.

     

    For example,

     

    Moral: Letting an 11-week-pregnant woman die

    Immoral: Saving an 11-week-pregnant woman via abortion

     

    Only your deluxe-hamburger-sized human brains can make that seem sensible. To us lower, fuzzier creatures, that just looks like men hating women.

     

  • colleen

    Only your deluxe-hamburger-sized human brains can make that seem sensible. To us lower, fuzzier creatures, that just looks like men hating women.

    well said, ferret. I must say that I’ve found it difficult to read a bunch of petty, stupid men engage in pseudo-religiously based gang abuse with you as their target. But I do admire the way you respond to their hatred and mean spirited stupidity and abuse with strength, grace and humour.

    • bornin1984

      well said, ferret. I must say that I\’ve found it difficult to read a bunch of petty, stupid men engage in pseudo-religiously based gang abuse with you as their target. But I do admire the way you respond to their hatred and mean spirited stupidity and abuse with strength, grace and humour.

      Number one, no one gangs up on PCF. (S)he invites the comments (s)he gets based on the way (s)he tries to respond to others, even when said comments were not directed at him/her. Number two, if you think his/her responses are filled with strength, grace and humor then, at the risk of being deemed belligerent, I can only say that you are highly delusional. As it is, I am still waiting for him/her to get around to responding to a couple of my posts, but I fear (s)he will not, on account of him/her being a tad less smarter and witty then (s)he thinks (s)he is and on account of me being a tad smarter then (s)he thinks I am.

      And on a side note, I found humor in the gang abuse phrase. Apparently, ganging up on someone is only a crime when pro-lifers do it, even when they do not.

  • bornin1984

    Making exceptions for rape, even when its under limited circumstances at THAT point, proves to me that it\’s not really about life for ProLifers, esPECially Catholic ProLifers. It\’s about punishment for women who have consensual sex for purposes other than procreation. Too sad.

    You would have a point if not for the fact that people who generally would allow a woman to have an abortion because she was raped would also allow a woman to have an abortion because her life is endangered by continuing the pregnancy. For your argument to hold water, pro-lifers would generally have to be more permissive of abortions in the case of rape and less permissive of any other kinds of abortions. Of course, since this is not the case, then your argument is nonsensical.

  • sweetchild92

    Team ProChoiceFerret

     

    Rock on, you beautiful animal

  • colleen

    Number one, no one gangs up on PCF. (S)he invites the comments (s)he gets based on the way (s)he tries to respond to others

    Yes, this is the defense mechanism that fuels the ‘pro-life’ movement. Entitled folks and particularly conservative men always refuse to own up to their own behaviors about ANYTHING. It’s unfortunate that your upbringing and faith have taught you that abusing women is the antidote to entirely justifiable and accurate feelings of inadequacy.

  • prochoiceferret

    Awww, thank you for the kind words :3

     

    But it’s not just me, of course. After all, when it comes to reproductive rights, we are all ferrets, biting the hands of those who would deny us choice. (Not just a playful nip, either, but a real “bad ferret” bite!)

     

    (This hand belongs to Phyllis Schlafly)

  • prochoiceferret

    Number two, if you think his/her responses are filled with strength, grace and humor then, at the risk of being deemed belligerent, I can only say that you are highly delusional.

     

    I’m afraid I’m going to have to deem you belligerent.

     

    And if you think that Colleen is highly delusional, then I can only say that you are ridiculously delusional. But that’s nothing compared to your cohorts defending an obviously immoral Church hierarchy as supposed guardians of morality, which goes right to (gasp!) ludicrously delusional.

     

    As it is, I am still waiting for him/her to get around to responding to a couple of my posts, but I fear (s)he will not, on account of him/her being a tad less smarter and witty then (s)he thinks (s)he is and on account of me being a tad smarter then (s)he thinks I am.

     

    I’m sure you’ll figure it out eventually.

  • freetobe

    As being one for 18 years and having been confirmed etc. i can tell you that the use of ANY contraceptives is not allowed ever not even condomns!. The Catholics that do use it (appr 97%) are comitting a venious sin. However  I do not believe in the Catholic faith anymore and left it at 18 years old. All religions are written by men for men and especially I have noticed after hearing other sermons by different churches that the Catholic faith regards women as second class at all times. I mean any religion that thinks a woman should die before she has an abortion  sounds like devil worship to me oh not to mention all the children sexually abused by the Bishops,the 13 year old girl and her mother who were excommunicated from the church but not the rapist male Hmmmm

    The nun who was excommunicated for saving a womans life from a dangerous pregnancy and oh lets not forget that ordaining a woman into priesthood is as evil as pedohiles, the Bishops secret lot of prostitutes.

    You get the picture.” As the objects in the mirror seem closer than they appear”.

    In short the church uses women to make more donaters to keep up their palace or shrine the Vatican and their pedophiles safe.

     

    Some God fearing people there you think?

  • freetobe

    correction I meant Priests not Bishops on the pedophils.

    The Catholic Church did a real good job on making woman and girls feel ashamed and insignificant. I am not the only one this has happened to. I have talked to many other Catholic women who have left religion altogether because of this.

    The church and other many other faiths must believe that women are only mere chattel for thier amusement. Thanks a lot.

  • sweetchild92

    Flawless picture.

  • bj-survivor

    I am dying of the cute! :p

  • bj-survivor

    Freetobe. You are wrong. You just needs Paul Bradford’s, Truth’s, and Arex’s guiding hands to understand that the Roman Catholic Church values you, as a woman, as much as it loves and values all human life…And that black is white, up is down, war is peace, freedom is slavery, and we have always been at war with Oceania.

  • beenthere72

    I had to stop at Petsmart on the way home from work yesterday and they had 4 or 5 ferrets that were all leaping on each other and wrestling – it was so damn cute.