Governor Crist Vetoes Mandatory Ultrasound Bill


Women seeking abortions in Florida can rest a little easier, and keep a little more money in their pockets.  Governor Charlie Crist has vetoed the state legislature’s law demanding that all women pay out of pocket and obtain an ultrasound before undergoing the procedure.

Via the Miami Herald:

Gov. Charlie Crist has vetoed a bill that would have required women seeking an abortion during the first trimester to undergo an ultrasound exam and pay for it.

Crist vetoed the bill Friday, saying it put an inappropriate burden on women seeking an abortion.

Crist had literally received tens of thousands of voicemails and emails advocating on both sides of the issue, but made it fairly clear that once he received the final bill from the legislature that he would strongly consider a veto.  Republicans held the bill for over a month before passing it to the governor in an attempt to provide additional time for anti-choice advocates to apply pressure, in the hopes of changing his mind.

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  • bei1052

    He wants to win the state Senate seat, after all, and he’s knows that he’s not going to do that without trying to court some Independents and Democrats.

  • mechashiva

    So cynical. Why dismiss the idea that he vetoed the bill based on his honest opinion of the issue?

  • crowepps

    The quote I’ve seen in the news stories of his first reaction, that it seemed “mean-spirited”, which it did, does seem to indicate he vetoed it based on his honest opinion.

  • bei1052

    Because he didn’t. It’s not cynical. It’s the truth. I happen to live in Florida, and everyone and their mothers knew he would veto this bill to try to court Democrat-leaning-Independent and Democratic voters, which he needs if he’s going to have a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning in November.

     

    This veto was a foregone conclusion, and literally no one is surprised that he did veto it.

  • crowepps

    This veto was a foregone conclusion, and literally no one is surprised that he did veto it.

    If that is true, then would it also be correct that the point of PASSING it in the first place was to try to influence right-leaning Independent and ProLife Republican voters?

     

  • bei1052

    If that is true, then would it also be correct that the point of PASSING it in the first place was to try to influence right-leaning Independent and ProLife Republican voters?

     

    No, because Republican-leaning-Independents and Republican voters weren’t going to vote for Crist, anyway, which is why he left the Republican party in the first place. Better to court those who will vote for you rather then those who won’t.

  • crowepps

    And so then the purpose of passing a law that everybody knew would be vetoed was to help in the individual campaigns of those who supported it while knowing it would never actually become law?

  • bei1052

    And so then the purpose of passing a law that everybody knew would be vetoed was to help in the individual campaigns of those who supported it while knowing it would never actually become law?

     

    You do realize that the bill was (I want to say) tens of pages long and contained more then just the ultrasound provision, yes?

  • crowepps

    You’re the one who said everybody knew that the ultrasound provision would mean it would be vetoed.  If the rest of the law, all 137 PAGES of it was really, REALLY important and necessary, why would legislators who felt those other items were important and necessary include the provision about abortions and ultrasound knowing that would guarantee a veto of the entire thing?

     

    The text of the entire bill is available here:

     

    http://flhouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=_h1143er.docx&DocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=1143&Session=2010

     

    Really don’t have time to go through the entire thing with a fine tooth comb, but to be cynical, maybe it was a two-fer; they could use the last minute amendment to look all moral and ProLife for the voters and at the same time defeat some other provision that puts in place a regulation making their campaign financers in health care unhappy.

  • bei1052

    I said, and I quote:

     

    …everyone and their mothers knew he would veto this bill to try to court Democrat-leaning-Independent and Democratic voters, which he needs if he’s going to have a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning in November.

     

    You do realize that the bill was going through the processes *before* Crist decided to run as an Independent, correct (indeed, the whole ultrasound part was added before Crist decided to jump proverbial ship). I’m just making sure, because I don’t think you do. You’re sitting here acting as if the legislatures just up and decided to add the ultrasound provision after Crist decided to run as an independent knowing full well that he’d decide to play politics, which wasn’t the case at all.

     

    But, honestly. I really don’t even know why I’m bothering with this. Since you don’t don’t seem to have been keeping up with the whole Senate race thing in Florida and what’s Crist has been veto’ing, this is more-or-less a waste of my time <_<

  • crowepps

    You’re sitting here acting as if the legislatures just up and decided to add the ultrasound provision after Crist decided to run as an independent knowing full well that he’d decide to play politics, which wasn’t the case at all.

    Since that isn’t what I said at all in my last post, but instead that someone might have wanted to sink something in the rest of the bill and used the ultrasound provision as a poison pill to do so, it’s hard to see why you insist on that interpretation.

     

    The ‘Senate race thing’ in Florida isn’t getting a whole lot of coverage in Alaska.  I’m sure you’ve heard the saying ‘all politics is local’?  A correlary is that the riveting  importance of the details of politics is ALSO local.  I’m sure nobody in the country paid much attention to Sarah Palin the first year she was the Alaskan Governor, and most of you in the Lower 48 don’t have much interest in the nitty-gritty of our Legislature either.

     

    As to whether it’s a waste of your time, I guess that’s something you have to decide for yourself based on whether you actually have something more important to do.  Nobody is forcing you to respond to my posts.

  • mechashiva

    Yeah, I’m going to go with you on this. While vetoing the bill will help him get liberal votes, that doesn’t mean that’s the only reason he did it. Claiming that getting votes was the only reason seems like political cynicism and speculation to me.

  • squirrely-girl

    Crazy how voting against legislation that is blatantly contradictory to decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States is just “to get votes” and not somehow related to… oh I don’t know… having half a brain and thinking pregnant women have the same rights to privacy and freedom from undue legislative interference in their PRIVATE MEDICAL AFFAIRS as everybody else. Yah… I’m sure it was TOTALLY about the grandstanding.

  • emma

    What are you trying to achieve? Stop wasting your time, and more importantly, stop wasting ours.