• ahunt

    Sigh…lather, rinse, repeat.

  • danny

    Channelone.com is in many of the nations schools, public, christian and more. Channelone is owned by Alloyed Marketing and Media. Part of their social responsibility is to be partners with Planned Parenthood.
    What do you think they teach ten year old children?
    Abortion is OK? Do they teach the side effects of abortion?
    Do they tell the children that in three states that a woman that is about to have an abortion, has to be told that she is killing a human being? Are they telling the children on our tax dollar, the whole truth? Or just what they want the children to believe?
    Additional information at Obligation.org
    When did your life begin?

  • harry834

    "has to be told that she is killing a human being?"

    Why is there no desire among most pro-lifers to prosecute the woman for murder? What does she think is growing in her, an animal? Do pregnant women believe that anything other than a would-be human is growing in them?

  • amanda-marcotte

    I love that they really think they don’t do enough in denying women’s basic humanity

  • prochoiceferret

    What do you think they teach ten year old children?
    Abortion is OK?

    Well, duh, of course it’s okay. What would not be okay is teaching that they have control of their bodies, unless they’re a woman, and pregnant…

    Do they teach the side effects of abortion?

    Like what, not being pregnant anymore? I thought that much was obvious.

    Do they tell the children that in three states that a woman that is about to have an abortion, has to be told that she is killing a human being?

    The fact that lots of people, including state legislators, feel the need to stick their noses into a woman’s reproductive health care is another subject altogether. Should the curriculum include Personhood USA’s efforts to ban contraception, too?

    Are they telling the children on our tax dollar, the whole truth? Or just what they want the children to believe?

    You must have been really up in arms when they taught kids about Christopher Colombus….

  • princess-rot

    The pro-life movement clearly thinks they have hit on a winning narrative to convince the public to ban abortion, and also birth control, by enacting state constitutional amendments that grant full legal standing to hours-old fertilized eggs.

    This comes from a fear and hatred of others, not concern for “babies”. Everyone must live by our rules or the sky will fall down!!11eleven

  • crowepps

    When did your life begin?

    When the kids went away to college and I got a divorce.

  • ahunt

    SPEW!

     

    Afternoon coffee…through the nose. I will have revenge.

     

    Seriously…why this question irks me no end is the bizarre  assumption that I would know or care "when" Dad’s swimmer met Mom’s egg.

     

    Weird.

     

     

  • crowepps

    It can thin the lining of the uterus so that if the first two actions [preventing ovulation or preventing sperm from reaching the ovum] fail and a new human being is created, the tiny baby boy or girl will die before he or she can actually attach to the lining of the uterus.

    First, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that hormonal birth control ‘can thin the lining of the uterus’ but instead this is just a theory some anti-abortion activist came up with which no one has DISproved.

     

    Second, the sentimentalist craptrap included is just really, really annoying. A blastocyst, even at the stage of "yolk sac", is NOT a "tiny baby boy or girl". I am as awed by the miracle of creation as anyone, but the ’people seed’ idea of the conceptus as tiny homunculus was discredited centuries ago and only the medieval-science right-wing is eager for its resurrection.

    that statement is based on the incorrect notion that pregnancy begins when the baby implants in the lining of the womb. This is dishonest and scientifically false.

    Having an egg successfully fertilized by an sperm does not make a woman pregnant.  Pregnancy of the woman is diagnosed by the presense of hCG, a hormone which comes from the placenta. There is a long series of steps which the fertilized egg must successfully complete including "invad[ing]" the endometrium and "break[ing] down larger endometrial veins and arteries" before the placenta exists and is producing hCG.

     

    There is, so far as I know, no scientific or medical term which describes a condition of a woman who ‘may have unattached zygote floating around inside uterus’. Unless the ‘pregnancy’ being described is exclusively that of the ZYGOTE then the pregnancy starts with implantation.  I wouldn’t be at all surprised, by the way, if they are indeed describing the pregnancy of the zygote, since their narrow focus pretty much excludes the woman entirely.

     

    http://cwx.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/martini10/chapter28/custom3/deluxe-content.html

     

    Using the words "tiny baby boy or girl" and in the same propaganda leaflet accusing OTHERS of dishonesty and promoting ‘scientifically false’ information definitely deserves a chutzpa award.

  • crowepps

    But see, what’s important isn’t when Mom ‘became pregnant’.  What is important to these egomaniacs is when THEY began THEIR pregnancy.  That’s the wellspring for those bizarre statements about ‘I know everthing I need to know about pregnancy and abortion because I was a zygote’ or ‘what if your mother had aborted you?’

     

    It is so obviously all about ME, ME, ME!!  You can hear it most clearly when they do those paeans of praise to Mom who ‘made her life really hard’ or ‘almost died’, or ’died having me’, but of course it was entirely worth all her pain and suffering and even death because the whole purpose of the universe was to ensure the creation and continued existence of ME.

     

    I hate to break it to them, but they exist entirely by chance and if another sperm had won the race, they wouldn’t be here at all and nobody would miss them.

  • harry834

    they exist entirely by chance and if another sperm had won the race, they wouldn’t be here at all and nobody would miss them.

    They may feel that this statement devalues life, but they have to admit it is biological fact. It could just as esaily have been another sperm, another egg, or both and thus another person entirely. We wouldn’t have even known or cared of what we "lost". It is biological chances.

  • crowepps

    "All oppressors…attribute the frustration of their desires to the want of sufficient rigour.  Then they redouble the efforts of their impotent cruelty."  Edmund Burke

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