• kathyc

    I think the headline for this article is misleading. The judge did not OK any particular defense. He ruled out the so called "necessity defense" and did not rule on any other issues. As he said, "the door is open" on other defense strategies, but he did not invite them to pass through that door. We should hope this trial is as fair and above the bar as possible. This is the most viable path to a conviction that will not be overtuned on technicalities. We should hope for a conviction on the highest possible crime and the harshest penalty for that crime. More providers will die if Roeder is ever again on the streets.

  • jodi-jacobson

    Saw your comment and I agree.

     

    We have changed the headline to reflect this.

     

    Thanks for pointing that out.
    Jodi

  • kathyc

    Thank you for your thoughtful response.

  • crowepps

    The judge said allowing the personal beliefs of defendants to justify unlawful actions would “not only lead to chaos but would be tantamount to sanctioning anarchy.”

    Ironic that those who style themselves as ‘promoting conservative values’ or ‘upholding tradition’ are doing so by promoting vigilantism and anarchy.

  • jenh

    Abortion is murder. What Roeder did in killing Tiller was also murder. I do not condone or attempt to justify what Roeder did. I want abortion in America to end. I do not want people running around shooting abortionists. I just want the killing to stop… all of it.

    I wish all of you here a happy Christmas, and I pray the peace of the Christ Child will reign in your hearts in 2010. Open your hearts to welcome the Infant King, and then open your hearts to welcome all infants.

    Women deserve better than abortion.

    Peace be with you.

  • cycles

    The judge said allowing the personal beliefs of defendants to justify unlawful actions would "not only lead to chaos but would be tantamount to sanctioning anarchy."

    I’m surprised the judge didn’t point out the connection of this line of thinking to hate crimes legislation. Under the law, strong personal beliefs that lead to assault or murder are actually prosecuted more harshly than crimes of sudden passion or crimes for material gain. Although abortion doctors are not covered specifically under hate crimes laws, they exist on the spectrum of people who are disproportionately targeted for who they are, and for their actions which are completely legal. The law says that when you hurt somebody based on your beliefs, the punishment should be bigger, not smaller.

  • mechashiva

    At this time I would like us all to join our e-hands in prayer, and thank our most merciful Lord, the Baby Jesus. 

     

    "Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers to the south call you Jésus…we thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Domino’s, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family, My two beautiful, beautiful, handsome, striking sons, Walker, and Texas Ranger, or T.R., as we call him. And of course my red hot smokin’ wife, Carley, who is a stone cold fox, who if you would rate her ass on 100 it would easily be a 94. I also want to thank you for my best friend and teammate, Cal Naughton Jr, Who’s got my back no matter what.

     

    Dear Lord Baby Jesus, we also like to thank you for my wife’s father Chip, we hope that you can use your baby Jesus powers to heal him and his horrible leg. It smells terrible and the dogs are always bothering with it.

     

    Dear Tiny, Infant, Jesus… Look, I like the Christmas Jesus best, and I’m sayin’ grace. When you say grace, you can say it to Grownup Jesus or Teenage Jesus or Bearded Jesus or whoever you want.

    Dear Tiny Jesus, in your golden fleece diapers with your tiny, little fat balled up fists. Look, I like the baby version the best, you hear me? I win the races and I get the money.

     

    Dear Eight Pound, Six Ounce, Newborn Baby Jesus, don’t even know a word yet, just a little infant, so cuddly, but still omnipotent. We’d just like to thank you for all the races I’ve won and the $21.2 million, LOVE THAT MONEY! That I have accrued over this past season. Also due to a binding endorsement contract that stipulates I mention PowerAde at each grace, I just wanna say that PowerAde is delicious and it cools you off on a hot summer day and we look forward to PowerAde’s release of mystic mountain blueberry. Thank you, for all your power and your grace, Dear Baby God, Amen."

  • prochoiceferret

    Abortion is murder.

    No, it’s not, actually. This is a common misconception.

    I want abortion in America to end.

    Yeah, it’d be nice if unwanted pregnancies, ectopic pregnancies, severe congenital defects, rape, incest and any of hundreds of other reasons to have an abortion never happened again. I put that up there with world peace and pretty pink ponies for everyone who wants one. Unfortunately, this is reality. It’s not as nice a place as fantasy, but we’re kind of stuck here.

    I wish all of you here a happy Christmas, and I pray the peace of the Christ Child will reign in your hearts in 2010.

    The Muslims and other non-Christians on this board look on your Christmas wishes with… bemusement.

    Open your hearts to welcome the Infant King, and then open your hearts to welcome all infants.

    Gee, that’s really nice of you, to volunteer our time, treasure, and bodily resources to infants we may not necessarily want. How about "opening your heart" to welcome all the homeless people in your area? I’m sure they would love to have a nice, hot shower in your bathroom.

    Women deserve better than abortion.

    People deserve better than open-heart surgery, too, but that’s not a reason to deny them surgery if they need it.

    Peace be with you.

    Actually, your comment didn’t leave us feeling particularly peaceful. Annoyed is more like it.

  • prochoicegoth

    Abortion will never be illegal. They tried to get rid of abortions back in the day and guess what? They still occured, only they were dangerous and performed by the woman herself OR some back-alley butcher wanting to make a quick buck. You ought to watch the first episode of "If These Walls Could Talk" to see the reality of those dark days. Do you want that to happen again? For women who can’t afford to go across state lines to have to resort to butchering themselves? Do you want women to suffer and die? Is it all about the fetus for you, until the cord is cut?

     

    Merry Yule to you and I hope in 2010 the Goddess gives you compassion for your fellow female enough to allow them to choose whether or not they want to be a walking incubator. 


    It’s pro-choice or
    NO choice.

  • princess-rot

    Aye, if by "better" you mean "a better punishment".

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