“A Profound Disagreement:” Clinton Breaks the Political Sound Barrier


Yesterday was a day to go down in history.

It was the day that Hillary Clinton broke the political sound barrier.

It was the day that someone, finally, after many years of dissembling by so many, stood up to the perpetual hot air balloon that is Congressman Chris Smith and revealed that he has no more power in the face of facts than did the fabled Emperor with no clothes.

It was the day Clinton spoke the truth and thereby shattered the myth that has existed for so long that we could talk about family planning, reproductive health, women’s rights, women’s health or even human rights, and not say the word "abortion." It was a day in which the issue of safe abortion services as a fundamental component of women’s health and rights was put back on the US foreign policy table.

To Smith’s question as to whether the Obama Administration would be seeking to "overturn pro-life laws" in Africa and Latin America, Clinton replied firmly and without apology:

We have a very fundamental disagreement and it is my strongly held view that you are entitled to advocate and everyone who agrees with you should be free to do so anywhere in the world, and so are we.

We [the Obama Administration] happen[s] to think that family planning is an important part of women’s health and reproductive health includes access to abortion, that I believe should be safe, legal and rare.

Clinton’s statement was certainly the most courageous a Secretary of State–or any Administration official–has ever made on reproductive rights and one of the most courageous statements made by a Secretary of State of any kind, on any issue, ever, because it was made in the face of over 20 years of political silence on the issue. And it was made about an issue made increasingly taboo by the very stigma and silence that people like Smith have worked so hard to perpetuate.

For longer than I personally can remember, a highly vocal but small
minority of far right wingers have used McCarthy-esque tactics to silence an entire conversation about women, women’s rights,
and their health, to marginalize the issue of safe abortion, and to use misinformation about abortion to smear the basic services that would reduce the unintended pregnancies that lead so many women to seek an abortion in the first place. The very bloviation practiced by the far right wing and the complicity in the media that failed to examine their claims and campaigns made them seem more powerful–in fact made them more powerful–than they really were in any sense of numbers. And they twisted the very concept of "pro-life" to mean anything but saving the lives of women.

Smith, the leader of the bully pack on this issue has throughout his career used the abortion issue as a wedge whenever he could, to limit access to family planning services and to limit access to life-saving prevention services under US global AIDS policy.

And during that time, in the face of the far right juggernaut-that-was-not, the reproductive health community was increasingly silent about abortion in international policy. Some even sought to play down the inclusion of access to safe abortion as a primary aspect of reproductive health care and women’s rights as part of a political strategy, even when consistent losses in funding for services not including abortion showed that playing down this issue was not going to bring us any closer to universal access to basic family planning services. This further empowered people like Smith, as did the failure by AIDS advocates to stand up to his bullying tactics on prevention of sexual transmission of HIV and AIDS. Remember the Wizard of Oz was only "all-powerful" until someone finally drew back the curtain.

Yesterday, Clinton swung it wide open, and made the exclusion of abortion as an issue a moot point, hopefully for all time. This leads us well beyond the lifting of the global gag rule because it makes possible a conversation about the various restrictions within US policy that restrict women’s rights to access safe abortion services and it puts back on the table how those restrictions actually increase, rather than reduce the number of abortions worldwide.

In taking on the bully in the schoolyard, Clinton revealed once again that a bully is only as powerful as we allow him to be.

She spoke truth to power. And in doing so, she gave voice to those who have none in this debate. Each year, more than 600,000 women, according to what can only be described as conservative estimates, die of causes related to pregnancy and childbirth. Each year, more than 75,000 of those deaths, according to those same conservative estimates, are caused by complications of unsafe abortion. Each year, countless children are left without mothers due to maternal mortality. Each year, women seek desperately to avoid a pregnancy they can not afford and have been left without basic services. Each year an increasing number of women become infected by HIV through unprotected sex that could be prevented by effective programming.

Secretary Clinton spoke for all of them and more.

Now, and going forward, thanks to Secretary Clinton, the real conversation can be had, and the real work to secure the rights of women and families to determine their own fate can be carried out.

Yesterday, today, tomorrow, and hopefully for years to come as Secretary of State, Clinton is and will be a heroine to women throughout the world and a path-breaking leader in an Administration that continues to make history.

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  • invalid-0

    Hilary’s sublime self possession carried the day. Fearless, articulate and unapologetic, she stands as a true champion of women.

    I do not imagine that the GOP reps get it yet, but this spanking has got to unnerve them.

  • invalid-0

    It’s about time! Thank you Hilary.

  • lmerryangel

    HOW SAD, Jodi–to applaud the death of 50 million+ dead unborn babies in the U.S., and the DEVASTATION summarized in the letter to the first black CHRISTian President–who is complict in these SAD STATISTICS as are you, Hilary and ALL liberals that accept the LIBERAL LIES!
    HEre is the letter–have the courage to respond:

    Since the beginning of civilization, the MOST PERFECT boundary for the rearing of children has been in the “protective” surrounding of a committed mother and father-ideally the biological 2 that contributed the sperm and egg.
    We have MUCH data to support the benefits of mutual monogamous MARRAIGE– defined by EVERY major religion as the sacred union of 1 man and 1 woman. That perfect union–designed by our Intelligent Designer made 2 perfectly complementary reproductive systems–AMAZINGLY designed to produce eggs and sperms, along with NEW data on the hormonal bonding from chemicals like oxytocin in the woman, and vasopressin and testosterone in the male, that increase in that beautifully designed act–meant for 2 purposes-bonding AND procreation. The act of sodomy, MISusing a part of our amazing bodies NOT designed for procreation, but for elimination of waste– fulfills neither !
    It has only been in the last 40+ years with the LIBERAL LIE that one can engage in either heterosexual or homosexual sex without the commitment of MARRIAGE and that one would be engaging in “FREE LOVE”-since we abandoned that long-held “protective” boundary of mutually monogamous MARRIAGE, that we have seen such devastation–it has NOT been free,but has HARMED/KILLED millions, and it is NOT making LOVE-but engaging in hedonistic LUST!
    SADLY blacks are engaging in higher numbers than their peers–THUS more devastation–PLEASE read and have the courage to respond to the following letter sent to the first black Christian President–I do NOT think he is brilliant enough to understand that funding the comprehensive-sex-ed-“here’s your condom-we know you cannot control your sexual urges” makes him and others that support that hedonism complicit in ALL of the negative devastation detailed in the letter–I hope to hear your feedback:

    Dear President Obama,
    I feel compelled to write and share some VITAL information with you, I have personally been gathering research for the last 10 years on the benefits of directing youth to the healthy, responsible moral directive of abstinence education, particularly highlighting the great reductions in many social ills, directly linked to youth choosing to engage in hetero/homosexual sexual activity outside of the 4000+ year-old “protective” boundary of MARRIAGE! I hope you will take some time to review the data, as there is GREAT news on the reduction of teen sexual activity and other social ills like STD’s and fatherless households, since we began funding this healthy responsible directive in 1996-the decreases in sexual activity for black youth are especially hopeful! We are now seeing the dramatic results, (summary enclosed), and I also am hoping that you will promote policies in schools, direct and faith-based organizations to join the abstinence advocates in this country who want EVERY American child to have access to this healthy, responsible directive, so that we continue to see dramatic reductions in all of these social ills.
    I am sending you MUCH of the research -most from our own CDC and the U.S. Census Bureau, and an abstinence educator for the last 10 years, and was honored to write a chapter in a social ethics text (summary article enclosed) which details the HIGH disparities in social ills, particularly devastating blacks and other minorities, including rates of poverty, rates of STD’s, abortion rates, as well as the devastation to youth in fatherless homes-with increased rates of criminal behavior, drug and alcohol abuse, school drop out rates, and increasing pre-term labor and infant mortality rates as well as many other devastating statistics like emotional rates of depression and suicide rates. I hope you agree that directing ALL American youth to the HIGH expectation of abstinence education is the social IDEAL that would greatly reduce all of these ills –we have been teaching ALL youth to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and smoking, but especially it is time NOW to direct ALL American youth to abstain from sexual activity as there are many more negative consequences related to that ONE behavioral choice!
    PLEASE read the information carefully, and I would be honored to discuss in detail how abstinence directives should be a HIGH priority for ALL concerned about these ills. Although we have numbers for white and Hispanic youth, which are also very troubling, the sad numbers reflect that black youth are particularly negatively affected.

    Blacks account for 12-13% of the U.S. population–yet they have higher numbers as a percentage of their race in all of the following social ills:
    POVERTY-The #1 group trapped in poverty are single female -headed
    households–NO marriage–sadly, blacks have a 70% out–of-wedlock birth rate–so more will be trapped in poverty. Choosing to engage in sex before marriage is the contributing factor! Time Magazine recently had the statistic that we spend $500 billion on poverty-related programs.
    STD’s –Blacks have higher numbers of ALL STD’s -not just HIV/AIDS–which in
    some areas they account for 50% of the new cases–but also for Herpes,
    Chlamydia, Gonorrhea..and others,.-we know that STD’s are directly related to sexual choices-very few to rape/incest! One estimate noted that we spend $20 billion on screening/treatment.
    CRIME–We know that black youth engage in higher rates of criminal behavior and on
    more black victims–we also know that 70% of the men in prison came from
    homes with NO fathers–NO marriage–thus NO positive role model–people
    making sexual choices, but then abandon their responsibility! How does one begin to factor the costs of an unproductive life spent behind bars?
    ABORTION–We know that since 1973-Roe v. Wade that 45 million unborn babies
    have been KILLED in legal abortion–BUT 1/3rd of those-15 million– were
    black and Planned Parenthood-et.al. sets up more inner city abortion clinics
    targeting blacks-Black Americans for Life calls it genocide-! Statistics show that 85% of abortions are choices made by unmarried women.

    If any of you claim that abortion should remain legal–PLEASE go to http://www.abortionno.org and view the IMMORAL reality–how can any sane person support this atrocity?

    My research from the CDC states that black youth engage in sex at younger ages and with more partners than their white and Hispanic peers–so we will see more of ALL of these devastating numbers!

    SO–Lori, it seems you want MORE of this PHYSICAL devasation along with the EMOTIONAL HARM from the accptance of casual sex–detailed in 2 MUST-READ books -“UNPROTECTED” by Dr. Miriam Grossman and “Hooked” by Dr. Joe McIlhaney–HAVE THE COURAGE TO READ THEM!
    How can a person who claims to care about youth condone devastation from emotional effects of casual pre-marital sex like
    increased rates of depression and suicide, loss of self-esteem and many other emotional devastation HARMING our youth? THERE IS NO PROTECTION FOR A BROKEN HEART!

    Now for the solution–conservatives have funded and want to expand abstinence until MARRIAGE funding so that ALL youth will understand the consequences of that behavior -teach them how to exercise self-control to avoid STD’s, and so that they will not end up in poverty as a single mom or have to choose to KILL her baby in abortion. Also, we would like to teach young men that if they engage in these sexual choices, they have an obligation to commit to the mom in MARRIAGE-that it is healthy for the child to grow up with a father and a mother as we have much data on the increased rates of criminal behaviors, school drop out rates, drug and alcohol abuse from youth growing up fatherless.
    I have a tape of some politicians from C-Span who say it is “unrealistic” to teach some youth abstinence–isn’t that soft bigotry of LOW expectation–that blacks cannot
    be taught self-control like their white peers? I believe that it is our obligation to teach
    them the HIGH standard of abstinence, and we have studies which state black
    youth do abstain after this healthy, responsible, moral directive of abstinence
    education-! So–I hope we will begin to challenge those who say they want less poverty, less crime, less STD’s, less abortion -to join with conservatives and demand abstinence education for ALL youth–so that we can greatly reduce these sad statistics-especially for blacks!

    ***I am personally volunteering to come anywhere in the U.S. to show you a summary of the 2 hour presentation that we give to our students, and I know that you will agree that ALL American youth are entitled to this HEALTHY, RESPONSBLE, MORAL directive, instead of the irresponsible, unhealthy, 30 year-old failed liberal policy which has HARMED so many!

    I PRAY that you will consider looking at the UNBELIEVABLE individual and societal costs discussed, and join those who want to make a priority to fund the healthy directive that could greatly reduce all of the aforementioned social ills.

    GOD BLESS-US-EVERYONE!
    Ret. Major Laura Merriott
    a PROUD abstinence educator
    814 835-0249 5235 Wolf Rd. Erie, Pa. 16505

  • invalid-0

    This is an affirmation that when we have the freedom of choice..we have the freedom to live as human beings, which to the GOopers is an alien concept…probably fossilized by their decades-old strangehold on congressional power. May these creatures pretending to be human beings diminish in numbers and return to that historical dustbin where they belong!

  • invalid-0

    It is sad that a woman fling these baseless accusations against the SoS and other organizations that advocate family planning..a genuine one..rather than these abstinence programs that have been proven to be detrimental, especially to women in the long run…these advocates ignore studies that find these women to be more prone to STD infections/unplanned pregnancies/abortions. Genuine family planning advocates are not opposed to the teaching of abstinence..it is enthusiastically encouraged…but there is what you call REALITY..which these so-called CONSERVATIVES,,(who have bastardized the term, as well, as SOCIALISM..but I digress) IGNORE at their peril. Heavens, no, THEY DELIBERATELY IGNORE THIS with their own lies and innuendoes..building strawmen that symbolises their ignorance. I won’t even address the statistics that the lady above cite..being that I will not entertain pseudo-facts and unscientific studies. IGNORANCE IS NOT A VIRTUE MAJOR LAURA MERRIOT, as well as LIES. I am a young woman and as such, I choose LIFE (if you want to know, I am against abortion) but would not dream to impose your medieval notions of family planning to other women. THOSE should be RETIRED as you surely are.

  • invalid-0

    Who in the heck said anything about ‘casual sex?’ Where did that come from. And the ‘blacks’. Good grief. Abstinence is the best way to prevent an unintended pregnancy. But first you have to speak about sex and peer pressure and young men with no sex education because ‘boys will be boys.’ Safe, legal and rare. That’s exactly what abortion should be.

  • invalid-0

    I can’t imagine celebrating abortion- It’s not a freedom ladies: It is about being sex slaves to men. It is cruelity to the unborn and young women. Young women are expected to be sexually available to men by being on the birth control and when that fails(as inevitalby it will with combination of immaturity and highly fertile young woman) the violent default: abortion. Deep in every heart reading this you know that abortion is wrong. Women we are about love, we are not about violence to the unborn- Y’all! Hey I was pro-choice once too, but the message of love ultimately won! Here’s to conversion of hearts to each and every one of you- maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but soon and for the rest of your lives.

  • invalid-0

    Wow — if that Hillary Clinton had shown up in the 2008 Presidential primaries, she might have gotten more traction.

  • invalid-0

    It’s not a freedom ladies: It is about being sex slaves to men.

    Something tells me you’ve never met an actual sex slave before.

    Young women are expected to be sexually available to men by being on the birth control

    Oh really? There’s this cute girl I know at work—could you tell me if she’s on birth control, so that I can expect her to be sexually available to me? (I don’t want to ask her myself, because, you know, that’s kind of a private/personal thing…)

    and when that fails(as inevitalby it will with combination of immaturity and highly fertile young woman)

    Those young women aren’t going to be “highly fertile” if they’re taking birth control. That’s kind of, you know, the whole point. And I agree that there are a lot of immature young men out there. (So you support comprehensive sex ed, right? So that they won’t be immature about sex?)

    Deep in every heart reading this you know that abortion is wrong.

    Buddy, you really don’t know me, so don’t spout off about what I feel deep in my heart.

    Women we are about love

    And pink! And ponies! And princesses! Women are all about the princesses, let me tell you….

    Hey I was pro-choice once too, but the message of love ultimately won!

    It certainly wasn’t a message of love for pregnant women. (Unless you mean, “love,” as in, “I know what’s best for you, even if you think otherwise.”)

    Here’s to conversion of hearts to each and every one of you- maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but soon and for the rest of your lives.

    Don’t hold your breath.

  • invalid-0

    “A report into unplanned pregnancy by sexual health organisation Marie Stopes International in 2008 showed that 43 per cent of women were on the oral contraceptive pill when an unplanned pregnancy occured. A further 22 per cent were using a condom and 21 per cent of the women using contraception were on more than one method.”
    Birth Control Fails: Abortion is the default, that’s the horrid algorithm. Comprehensive sex ed would discuss the options of what happens when contraception fails, the development of the fetus, the techniques of abortion- including partial birth abortion and photos of aborted fetuses… that way an informed decision about when to have sexual activity could truly be made.

    One other issue: nobody seems to care that Secy Clinton did not answer Congressman Smith’s question: why did she state that she was in awe of the eugenicist Margaret Sanger? Doesn’t anyone find Margaret Sanger’s eugenic statements chilling?

  • invalid-0

    Doesn’t anyone find Margaret Sanger’s eugenic statements chilling?

    What part of “abhor” did you miss.

    Here…let me play too. Do you not find the historical catholic teaching of female moral inferiority chilling?

    See how that works?

  • invalid-0

    Oh, I see you didn’t answer the question either. Thank you for displaying another technique to avoid answering that question: BRILLIANT!

  • invalid-0

    Sigh. Hillary ANSWERED the question by stating that she ABHORRED Sanger’s eugenics views. Pay attention next time.

  • invalid-0

    Dear Ahunt, Thank you for clarifying how Hillary feels (which I presume mirrors your view). Yes I agree then with you that there was quite a vile element to Sanger. Yes Hillary did say in followup questioning to Fortenberry, not to Smith, that she “deplored” Sanger’s eugenic views analogous to Jefferson and slave owning, but she still loves the gal.
    I find the amount of women who die in abortions(legal and illegal) horrific too. The violent solution of abortion (analogous to a Tony Soprano let’s fix the problem) however is not the answer: instead like in this country fixing the root of the problem, funding to: increase prenatal health, education and economic opportunities for women; and efforts to increasing human rights for women. If there are so many 13 yrs old in Brazil who are hospitalized for post abortive infections- the real root of the problem (i.e.outlawing sexual predators?)needs to be addressed?
    May people like us who disagree on abortion come to find common ground for women’s health and rights: only a healthy dialectic can be achieved by avoiding attacking each other in snarky form (my apologies for my rude brilliant remark, that was uncalled for). Have a fantastic evening

  • invalid-0

    Yes Hillary did say in followup questioning to Fortenberry, not to Smith, that she “deplored” Sanger’s eugenic views analogous to Jefferson and slave owning, but she still loves the gal.

    Hillary likes Sanger for the positive contributions she made, much as we celebrate many historical figures who held some pretty reprehensible views along with the good that they did. Just look at a man named Walt Disney, and the blatant racism in many works personally approved by him.

    I find the amount of women who die in abortions(legal and illegal) horrific too.

    So you support legal, safe abortion, then. Abortion is markedly safer when performed in a legitimate medical setting, than when it is done in the “back alley” (in fact, abortion prohibitions have been shown not to significantly reduce the number of abortions, but to increase the number of deaths, because the procedures are then done in an illegal and thereby unsafe manner).

    instead like in this country fixing the root of the problem, funding to: increase prenatal health, education and economic opportunities for women; and efforts to increasing human rights for women.

    All of which pro-choicers support, while working directly to address #1 and #3. Don’t forget improved access to contraception, and comprehensive sex ed.

    May people like us who disagree on abortion come to find common ground for women’s health and rights: only a healthy dialectic can be achieved by avoiding attacking each other in snarky form (my apologies for my rude brilliant remark, that was uncalled for).

    Pro-choicers have always been about bolstering women’s health and rights, and I’m guessing you’re on board with that too. It would be helpful if you could talk to some of your friends in the mainstream pro-life movement, however, who are less interested in actually reducing unwanted pregnancies (and thereby abortions) than in dictating to women what their sex lives should be like.

  • invalid-0

    No I don’t think exporting abortion to poor countries is the answer. I unlike many believe that abortion is violence to women and their children: this is a fundamental philosophical and ontological chasm in belief between camps. Unlimited access to abortion does not make it rare- it makes it more common. If the goal is to keep abortion rare- admitedly there is something inheriently wrong with it- otherwise we would want the procedure and access to it flourish. Other routes to expanding women’s rights, economic condition and true reproductive health are where we should impact. I’m not interested in dictating women’s sex lives as mentioned in above post. I’m interested in women being completely aware of the negative ramifications of choosing abortion and avoiding unwanted pregnancy. And being aware that the earlier that sexual activity begins the more likely an unplanned pregnancy begins: mathematically we can all understand this. Yes, you can give all the Yaz to the women and the rivers and condoms to young men, but still some of them will get pregnant and STDs. But, helping them to initiate sexual activity later will be more successful in reducing abortion, HIV and STDs. Thank you for your respectful post above- I appreciate the lack of sarcasm!

  • invalid-0

    No I don’t think exporting abortion to poor countries is the answer. I unlike many believe that abortion is violence to women and their children: this is a fundamental philosophical and ontological chasm in belief between camps.

    Agreed. We feel that forcing a woman to go against her wishes—whether it be to force her to have an abortion she doesn’t want, or to force her to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term—is what constitutes violence against her. In other words, that it’s up to the woman, and not to us, to decide who or what is or isn’t doing violence to her.

    Unlimited access to abortion does not make it rare- it makes it more common.

    Well, if abortion is the only thing you make available, then yes. Pro-choicers know it’s also about good sex ed and access to birth control, however. And subsidized access to abortion allows women to have the procedure done early in their pregnancy, rather than having to scrounge up money and end up getting it done late in their term. I’m sure you’d agree that, if a woman were intent on getting an abortion anyway, you’d rather she get it as early as possible. That would certainly be our preference.

    If the goal is to keep abortion rare- admitedly there is something inheriently wrong with it- otherwise we would want the procedure and access to it flourish.

    Says who? Root canal operations are legally available, and there’s nothing wrong with them, but that doesn’t mean we want everyone to have root canals. We want everyone to take care of their teeth so that they don’t need a root canal, but if they do need one, we want them to be able to get it.

    This is why we’re “pro-choice” and not “pro-abortion.” We don’t want people to have abortions just for the sake of it. We want to ensure that it remains as an option, but also to help people follow through on their reproductive preferences, so that if they don’t want to become pregnant in the first place then they won’t (and won’t come to the point of needing an abortion).

    I’m interested in women being completely aware of the negative ramifications of choosing abortion and avoiding unwanted pregnancy.

    Oh, sure, that’s fine. But unwanted pregnancies happen anyway, and early-term legal abortion is safer than carrying the pregnancy to term. There’s really not much to say there, unless you’re talking about illegal abortions, which are a whole different story altogether.

    And being aware that the earlier that sexual activity begins the more likely an unplanned pregnancy begins: mathematically we can all understand this. Yes, you can give all the Yaz to the women and the rivers and condoms to young men, but still some of them will get pregnant and STDs.

    Protective measures are not perfect, yes, but combine those with young people handling their relationships maturely and getting into them for the right reasons (not out of peer pressure, social pressure, etc.), and you end up with a situation waaaay better than what we currently have in this country. Just look at the Scandinavian nations—they have abortion and teen pregnancy, but at much lower rates than we do.

    But, helping them to initiate sexual activity later will be more successful in reducing abortion, HIV and STDs.

    And comprehensive sex ed has been shown to delay the initiation of sexual activity in teens. It should be a no-brainer for pro-lifers, but they’re too wrapped up in the fantasy that teens won’t ever engage sexually, and so don’t need to know how to do so safely.

  • invalid-0

    i can see that you have totally availed yourself of the extreme right wing-nut kool-aide.

  • invalid-0

    Basically, I agree with anonymous on this. The way to reduce the abortion rate (which, as far as I’m concerned is an amoral thing and access should be publicly funded and available throughout pregnancy, no questions asked, for any woman who wants it) is to increase access to contraception and comprehensive sex ed for young people. Cutting off access to one, very important but by no means only, means of reducing unwanted pregnancy is not the way to go.

    But even if everyone has contraception and knows how to use it and everyone is respectful of everyone else’s right to say no (or yes) to sex and everyone is guaranteed a place to live and healthcare and daycare is completely free, there will still be women who need/want abortion services. Because contraception isn’t 100% effective, ever, and some women just plain don’t want to be pregnant/have a baby. I know that for me, there’s no amount of money or other incentives that would convince me to carry another pregnancy to term. I have two kids and I’m done. I will not, ever, willingly have another one.

    That said, it’s moral crusaders like yourself that make me want to go out and get pregnant on purpose, just so I can have an abortion. I would never actually do that and I understand that it’s a totally immature response, but sometimes I really, really want to.

  • invalid-0

    Secretary of State, ever. I only wish that she had mentioned this earlier! I hope that she is only BEGINNING to speak out about this. Abortion rights are HUMAN rights, that is the part that the right wing nutters just don’t get. Also, teens have the right to comprehensive birth control education, so that abortion happens rarely. Teens WILL have sex, no matter what. Telling them not to only fuels their desire to. I was a teen once, and I am thankful that I had complete sex education including birth control methods. It made me not ever need to get an abortion! Abstinence education is a farce, it doesn’t work, and it has contributed to more need for abortions, and more diseases ( some like AIDS, which are life threatening! ) Obviously, the right wing cares more about controlling girls and women’s sexuality, then they do about fetuses. Only in right wing fantasy land can you keep teens from having sex. I will never call them pro-life, because of the reasons above.(also, these people are usually pro war, and pro death penalty) They are not for life, bu they are for telling people how they want them to live their lives, usually in the name of their stupid religion, which does not apply to the beliefs of most of the rest of us!

  • invalid-0

    Teach abstinence only to your OWN kids, as is your right, and keep on sticking your pea brained head in the sand. Sex is a natural, biologically driven function. We need to give young people comprehensive sex education, not abstinence which ill serves teens as they will and DO have sex, statistics show. If their birth control fails, then they need to be able to access, as the constitution of the USA lets them- safe and LEGAL abortion on demand. Abstinence ONLY has proved a dismal failure to our youth. I can understand that it is how you make your ill gotten money, but it does not work!! All your talk of genocide is BS, as more white girls have abortions than do black teens. It is a CHOICE, no one holds a gun to their heads! Your arguments are such BS! NO teen should have a baby that they do not want, or are ill prepared for. These teens should be able to put a mistake behind them via abortion, and go to college, and then have children that they want and are prepared for later on. This strengthens girls futures! look at Briston Palin- even she says abstinence only fails, and she has a rich family so of course she COULD have support while raising the child that she CHOSE to carry to term! COMPREHENSIVE sex education served me well, as I never needed to get an abortion but I did have sex as a teen, like most teens do! This site is called REALITY CHECK- get a CLUE!

  • invalid-0

    THAT Hillary Clinton has been the very same person her entire life.

    All you had to do was listen to her speak for herself and ignore all the sexist media noise. I did and I voted for her. I’d vote for her again in a heart beat.

  • jodi-jacobson

    Dear AAV,

     

    To two of your points.

    No one is suggesting anyone export abortion anywhere.

    Abortions are commonplace throughout the world.  The legal status of abortion only makes it more or less dangerous for women. 

    Please see World Health Organization and International Federation of OB-GYN statistics, among many other sources, indicating the large number of abortions that occur worldwide even where they are illegal. Secretary Clinton’s point was to stop pretending this does not exist, to stop pretending that we have moral authority over the choices of individual women facing their own circumstances and to stop pretending that the policies proposed by the far right–to eliminate support for any contraceptive, family planning or sexual health education program–will do anything but increase the number of abortions.

     

    Regarding the status of abortion, which I would pose as legal or illegal/restricted and which you have posed as "unlimited access." Legalizing abortion does not make it more common. Indeed abortion rates are lowest in many European countries that do not have the problems, fears and controversies we have with speaking openly about and dealing in a healthy way with safe, consensual sexual relationships.  In the United States the rates and numbers of abortions have been falling and remain highest among those women with least access to the very family planning services needed to reduce unintended pregnancies in the first place.

     

    I do not see any resolution to these problems suggested in your comments.

     

    With best wishes, Jodi Jacobson

  • boblapointe35

    I have to say I pretty much agree with Clinton here!

    Robert

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  • amandasmith

    As a mother, Clinton is a great women in the world. Proud to be a USA women.
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