Save the Endangered Abortion Provider!


In the 1990s, I ran an abortion
clinic near Seattle, Washington. A most rewarding career – in all my
years as a physician, I’ve never had so many patients thank me for
helping them. But at the same time, I worried that I belonged to an
endangered species. 

Like the spotted owl, our habitats
were being invaded and destroyed – not by loggers but by anti-choice
protestors. These were the years of virulent anti-abortion activity,
when my colleagues faced arson and acid attacks all too often. One doctor
told me about a day when he performed an abortion as members of Operation
Rescue battered down the clinic doors with a telephone pole. When he
finished the procedure, his terrified patient got up, hugged him so
tight he could barely move, and said, "You can’t leave us now." 

Those of us providing abortions
in the 1990s were determined to stay with our patients. But like an
endangered species, we were restricted to such a small habitat that
we could not expand our numbers. Medical schools and residencies often
failed to teach physicians-in-training about abortion or made it near
impossible for residents to train at an outside clinic. Meanwhile, the
provider population was getting older. Many doctors continued working
past retirement age

so their patients wouldn’t have to travel hundreds of miles to get
an abortion. 

The threats abortion providers
faced in the 1990s did have one benefit: they rallied the provider community
to preserve this endangered – but highly valued – species of physicians.
We formed new organizations, like Physicians
for Reproductive Choice and Health

and Medical
Students for Choice
,
that were dedicated to training the next generation of providers and
reducing the stigma around abortion. In 1996, March 10 was declared
a National Day of Appreciation for Abortion Providers. We’re still
waiting for Hallmark to make us a special line of greeting cards, but
the very existence of a day honoring abortion providers is a step in
the right direction. 

The threats to abortion providers
have changed since the 1990s. Violent attacks, thankfully, have diminished.
Our pro-choice president is quietly reversing some of the most egregious
policies of the Bush administration, including a midnight regulation
allowing a broad range of medical workers to refuse to provide reproductive
healthcare. 

But abortion providers aren’t
off the endangered species list yet. Even as federal policies improve,
many states are doing their best to limit abortion. The latest anti-choice
gambit requires doctors to provide an ultrasound – and often play a
fetal heartbeat – for any woman who wants an abortion. As if she hasn’t
already thought hard enough about her decision! I treated thousands
of women at my clinic, and not a single one took her choice lightly. 

While we try to fend off state
legislatures, we also watch out for the Supreme Court, which is just
one vote away from overturning Roe v. Wade. The most conservative
justices are likely to remain on the Court for decades. And too few
medical schools and residency programs offer training in abortion, especially
for specialties
like family medicine
.
Even doctors who identify as pro-choice aren’t always willing to offer
abortion services. 

Want to help save the endangered
abortion provider? Here are three things you can do today. If you know a doctor who provides
abortions
, thank
them for what they do. Call or write to your elected officials and ask
them to consult with an abortion provider before voting on any abortion-related
legislation. Too often, bills are passed without input from the very
people they affect most. Finally, if you’ve had an abortion, tell
someone about it. One in three women will have an abortion by age 45,
yet it remains a taboo topic. The more we can talk openly and honestly
about women’s abortion experiences, the more we can reduce the stigma
around this procedure.

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  • invalid-0

    Thank you to all abortion providers for standing up for what is right in difficult times and for providing life-saving care for women. You are very much appreciated!

  • invalid-0

    “One in three women will have an abortion by age 45, yet it remains a taboo topic. The more we can talk openly and honestly about women’s abortion experiences, the more we can reduce the stigma around this procedure.” –This is key!

    Thank you to all abortion providers for caring about the lives of women. You risk your lives to provide women with a safe procedure and a kind heart. Thank you!

  • invalid-0

    Thank you to all the abortion providers and individuals who have worked hard to keep a woman’s choice HER OWN! How can anyone call themselves equal or even free without the basic human right to decide when and whether to become a mother. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

    • invalid-0

      Maybe you should not open your legs until your ready 2 have a baby whatever you do or did is your own dam fault not a baby’s, abortion providers are no better than the person getting the abortion 2 me you are weak and just a all around bad person much like a murderer except its legal

  • invalid-0

    I have spent most of my life in the most profoundly rewarding work I can imagine–abortion services. I have been privileged to be with women at a time in their lives that calls forth their courage and love and honesty. I recommend that anyone who is passionate about justice, who has an open mind and an open heart and wants to make a difference every day look into this extraordinary work

  • invalid-0

    While I don’t know any abortion providers either personally or in my area, since haven’t looked for one, I’d like to extend my thanks to you.

    You’re a beautifully brave doctor for sticking with your patients through thick and thin, especially after some of the horror stories I’ve heard in the states.

  • colleen

    Christina Dunigan fails to mention that her link is to an exceptionally lame blog entry  which claims to document injuries and deaths to women have experienced during abortion procedures.

     

     

  • invalid-0

    Without you, and your courageous kind, women would be dying in back alleys from botched abortions. THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. We MUST protect the future for young women coming up. WE WILL NEVER GO BACK to a time when abortion is illegal again….NEVER!!

  • invalid-0

    So, Anonymous, every time you have sex you either get pregnant or impregnate someone? Since you completely dismiss the presence of contraception; “shouldn’t open your legs till you’re ready for a baby” is it safe to assume you don’t believe in contraception either?

    Do you think women are the gatekeepers of sex and the guardians of morality and they must be bastions of perfection and self-control? I notice that you don’t mention men in your little missive, not even passively. So, they are free to do as wish, and are totally blameless, but women must be angels? You don’t think that women have complex lives they may not want to bring a child into and that every sex act is some wanton succubus satisfying her rampant loins for which she must be punished with childbirth?

    Pull your damn head out of the sand. Life isn’t in black and white.

    • invalid-0

      Wow, Princess Rot. I am saddened by abortion but believe in free choice and my reply is not on the issue of abortion at all, but to tell you that you are a heck of a good writer!

  • invalid-0

    I’ve never had an abortion but I’m glad to know that it was an option if I ever needed it, which is why I’m a clinic escort. Once a month I stand there on a Saturday to make sure people can access the property without being harassed by those who have the unmitigated gall to think they have the right to make a decision for others.

  • invalid-0

    Don’t forget to thank ALL of the abortion practitioners.

    That inlcudes Osathanondh, the abortion practitioner in Massachusetts who has plead not guilty last year to charges of manslaughter.

    He killed 22-year-old Laura Smith in a botched legal abortion and was indicted by a grand jury after an investigation by local police, state police and the Massachusetts Board of Registration in Medicine.

    Osathanondh gave up his medical license permanently after a state medical board suspended it following the abortion death.

    And Sachida Mudaliar who is still on trial for the March 2003 death of a woman in a botched abortion he did.

    Don’t forget Pierre Renelique, the Florida abortion practitioner who neglected to come to the abortion business when one patient gave birth to a baby on the second-day of a two-part abortion procedure.

    And there is Rashid Sandhu — the abortion practitioner found guilty of sexually abusing a teenage patient after learning she was pregnant. Sandhu will head to prison for eight years after a sentencing hearing last year.

    And Mark Schulberg.

    He is an Australian abortion practitioner who did a late-term abortion on a mentally disabled woman without her consent. Authorities there also learned Schulberg failed to contact authorities about the fact the woman was raped.

    Closer to home, there is the case of Deborah Lyn Levich, the Alabama abortion practitioner who directed a nurse to give the dangerous mifepristone abortion drug to a woman in the latter stages of pregnancy. The FDA says the abortion drug is only safe during the first few weeks a woman is considering an abortion.

    State officials investigated Levich’s abortion center and said they found “egregious lapses in care, including non-physicians performing abortions, severely underestimating the gestational age of a fetus, failure to appropriately refer or treat a patient with a dangerously elevated blood pressure, and performing an abortion on a late-term pregnancy.”

    Eventually, Levich allowed her medical license to lapse after the abortion business was permanently closed.

    Since we like to keep patient records private, let’s not forget Albert Hodari.

    Hodari and his chain of abortion businesses were given probation this year in a case involving the illegal dumping of patient records. Members of a local pro-life group found biohazard waste and medical records at the Womancare abortion business.

    Womancare received a six month probationary period and Hodari pled no contest to twelve counts from the Oakland County prosecutor’s office of violating Michigan law requiring the proper filing and disposal of patient records.

    If paperwork motivates us, then we should thank Hamid Hussain Sheikh. He is the Kentucky abortion practitioner who engaged in such shoddy practices that state officials temporarily suspended his medical license.

    That action came after Sheikh pleaded not guilty to charges that he wrongly billed the state for abortions at his business.

    Sheikh was arrested after Attorney General Greg Stumbo conducted an investigation and found he erroneously reported abortions as ultrasounds in Medicaid billing records. He was indicted on four counts of billing Medicaid for abortions and could face 20 years in prison if convicted on all counts.

    Let’s not forget how many abortion providers kill their patients, put women’s health at risk and break the law. They deserve appreciation as well, right?

  • invalid-0

    you also killed another.

    • http://abikespoint.info invalid-0

      Thanks for the jod you do for women. I think any woman has a right to decide whether to give birth to the child or go to abortion providers.

  • invalid-0

    Yes, of course it is. But for a pro-choice person to criticize others for “think[ing] they have the right to make a decision for others” is absurd. You’re making the decision to end another person’s life.

  • invalid-0

    I had an abortion and now wish to repeal Roe. No one counciled me properly. I am in the process of becoming Catholic so I can go to confession and at least mitigate some of my monstrous guilt. I am 51 years old. It has been 34 years, yet, I can’t stop thinking about it. I wish I had given the baby up for adoption. If people like you ever performed a partial birth abortion – God help your soul…

  • invalid-0

    For Murderers? How touching.

  • invalid-0

    I have set in a delivery room holding my daughter, Abby, who was still-born at 20 weeks. She was and is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. She was not a clump of cells or an inatimate object, she was a person. To think that we live in a society that allows people to openly murder these babies and celebrate that murder in the callaus manner you describe haunts me every day of my life. There are two people involved in an abortion. As a society, we have an obligation to protect the most innocent, pure and defenseless among us.

  • invalid-0

    If you performed a retroactive abortion on yourself, think of all of the lives you would be saving!

  • invalid-0

    THANK YOU, THANK YOU! You and your associates are doing the Higher Powers work! Limiting human infestation of our planet thereby reducing Global Warming not to mention human caused extinctions!!!!! Infanticide is the only way to mitigate our species from destroying our Planet!

  • therealistmom

    … they are making the decision to have a legal medical procedure to end a pregnancy. Nobody has the right to make that decision but the woman who is pregnant. Not the government, not a religion, not a sidewalk screamer who is engaging in anti-woman slacktivism.

  • invalid-0

    Folks,

    Only one question matters: what is the unborn?

    If the unborn isn’t a human person, then no justification for abortion is necessary. Have as many as you like.

    However, if the unborn _is_ a human person, then almost no justification is adequate. We don’t kill two-year-olds for most of the reasons that we abort the unborn.

    I’m willing to concede that unborn children might not be human persons. But in turn, I think it’s only fair that abortion-choice supporters provide some sort of reasonable argument for this viewpoint, rather than using arguments about the downstream social effects (e.g., unwanted children are abused, etc.). Again, many women would be better off getting rid of their two-year-olds, but we don’t allow that.

    Or else please explain why framing the issue as I have done above is incorrect.

    Thanks.

  • therealistmom

    And I say this with all sincerity. Assuming your story is true (and this simply because a lot of the anti-choice stories that get tossed around here aren’t true but setups by sock puppets, nothing personal), you need assistance in moving past a choice that was incorrect for you. I’m not sure what "counciling" you didn’t get- surely you knew an abortion was ending a pregnancy and in the process killing the fetus. Either way, it sounds like having an abortion wasn’t the appropriate choice for you. That’s what this whole debate is about- we want people to have the ability to make the choice that is right for them.

    I have to ask though- do you honestly think carrying the pregnancy to term and giving the resulting infant up for adoption would have been "easier"?  Particulaly in the climate that still existed for single pregnant women 34 years ago? I am only 36 and in my lifetime I have already seen major shifts in the acceptance of single mothers, though tehre is obviously still a long way to go. If you were that attached to the fetus you carried to where you now feel you "killed a baby", would you have been able to give a full-term baby over to strangers?

     Religion isn’t the answer- particularly a guilt-based religion. If you honestly feel you need to "confess" a sin to your deity you don’t have to join some organized church and have some intermediary do it for you, or have them lay some kind of punishment on you. This is something between your own conscience and your own deity.  This is where mental health counciling comes in to help you deal with your feelings.

    For the record, just because I can’t stand to see blatant misrepresentation of facts- there is no such medical procedure as a "partial birth abortion" . The intact dialation and extraction procedure is used in those circumstances when other late-term options may be harzardous to the woman (as inducing labor might kill a woman in severe toxemia, or a fetus with severe hydrocephaly cannot fit safely through the birth canal) or when there is a severe fetal defect that forces a woman to choose to end a very wanted pregnancy, or if the fetus has already died in-utero.  Delivering the fetus intact gives the parents a chance to mourn their wanted infant, a chance to hold them and say goodbye. Despite what anti-choice rhetoric wants you to believe women don’t just wander into a clinic visibly pregnant and say, "Gimme one of them partial-birth abortions I wanna go drinking this weekend" or whatever bullshit they spew.

  • invalid-0

    I have unborn grandchildren and great grand children and great great grandchildren and great great great grandchildren and ad nauseum.Not one of which is a human being.
    What a stupid question.
    So you lose.
    Next.

  • invalid-0

    Realist gave you an excellent answer and advice. I hope that you take her advice and seek professional counseling, not religious dogma and guilt tripping.
    If you have a god, speak with him directly,let him help you. You don’t need a priest for that.

  • invalid-0

    And may you one day meet the children who’s lives you extinguinshed in the afterlife. I hope you can give them a solid reason that you needed to dismember them while in their mothers womb.

    But their NOT alive. No no no no no. Not in the least. That beating heart you’re stopping forever has NOTHING to do with a living organism. Nope. None at all. It’s just a choice that’s all. Like coke vs. pepsi or paper vs. plastic.

    “I fail to see how killing our offspring could possibly be seen as a progressive step for humanity”.
    -Anonymous

  • harry834

    Casper the friendly ghost,

    Beetlejuice,

    Tim Burton’s claymation family,

    Ghost Rider,

    Bruce Wayne’s parents,

    The radio star….

  • invalid-0

    That at no point during pregnancy is the fetus, in fact, a human with the same rights as everyone else.

    Plus, not every pro-life person is motivated by religion. I, for one, am an atheist.

  • harry834

    if you take this choice out of women’s hands, this choice which affects them more than any of the screaming judgers, then you are an oppressor.

  • invalid-0

    That’s ok harry. I wouldn’t try to address the actual substanse of my post either if I were you. It would probably just make you look foolish to explain how killing our children is a boon for society and humanity at large.

    I’d pick the easiest target and then set yourself up as brave for having addressed me at all. lol

    But remember, they AREN’T alive. That beating heart you’re stopping forever has NOTHING to do with a living being. Nope. None at all. :)

  • invalid-0

    I’m willing to concede that unborn children might not be human persons. But in turn, I think it’s only fair that abortion-choice supporters provide some sort of reasonable argument for this viewpoint

    Considering that equating “unborn children” with “human persons” would have the consequence of forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, I think it’s a lot more fair for you to provide a reasonable argument for why that would be justified.

    (Not to mention the fact that you are male, and so you are making an argument that isn’t even applicable to your sex. That doesn’t invalidate your view, but it means you’re a lot less likely to feel empathy for a women with an unwanted pregnancy. There is no “there, but for the grace of God, go I” for you.)

    rather than using arguments about the downstream social effects (e.g., unwanted children are abused, etc.).

    Those are benefits of the pro-choice position, not principal arguments in favor of it.

    Or else please explain why framing the issue as I have done above is incorrect.

    If you’re going to take away such a basic right from all women (i.e. the right to bodily integrity), you’re going to need a much stronger argument than some academic speculation on whether an early-early-early-stage undeveloped human is morally equivalent to a fully-grown individual.

  • harry834

    do you truly believe in the afterlife?

  • invalid-0

    That’s ok harry. I wouldn’t try to address the actual substanse of my post either if I were you. It would probably just make you look foolish to explain how killing our children is a boon for society and humanity at large.

    No, it makes you look foolish to expect Harry (or pretty much anyone else here) to take on the same religious worldview as you. I’ll bet you think people who get artificial hearts aren’t really alive, either. (Hint: Artificial hearts don’t beat, they whirr.)

    You would force women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. We will continue to work so that men like you will never make that a reality again in this country. Have a nice day.

  • invalid-0

    Serious answer.

    My personal beliefs regarding what happens when we die are not really an issue. If I do or don’t, that still doesn’t fundamentally change what followed that statement. And my beliefs regarding that have no bearing at all on my feelings towards abortion or abortion providers.

    I’m sitting here with my one year old girl and thinking that 13 months ago, my wife could have had Dr. dive into her womb and dismember the child in utero. Or partially extract her before crushing her skull and sucking our her brain. And my wife would have been applauded by most of the people who read this blog without thinking twice.

    Why? Becuase it’s ‘her choice’ of course. And I would have had zero recource because I’m an male and have no say in what she did. That my daughter would have been completely viable outside the womb would not have made one iota of difference to the majority of pro-choice people.

    Again, why? Because it’s ‘her choice’. As I said, it’s no different than paper vs. plastic or coke vs. pepsi. That is infinitely chilling to me in it’s simplicity and ruthlessness.

    • http://momstinfoilhat.wordpress.com invalid-0

      That vast majority of abortions occur in the first trimester. They do not involve any of the disgusting images that you describe.

      I don’t understand why you would come on a site clearly with a different worldview than yours, and cough up inaccurate graphic descriptions of a rare medical procedure. If your wife had complications in your daughter’s birth and needed an operative vaginal delivery, and I thought it should have been avoided with an elective cesarean (we are talking about an equally common controversial opinion in reproductive health), should I go on your personal blog about your birth and start graphically describing the operative delivery? With the cutting into the vagina, the splitting into the clitoris, the forceps squeezing the fetus’s head, possibly damaging it, feces coming out of the rectum as it is split open with a fourth degree tear…do you see where I am going here?

      You are disgusting. If you love babies and pregnancy, there are many positive ways you can support this.

  • invalid-0

    Then disregard the first statement and tackle the rest if it’s that simple. What followed that was factually accurate.

    And ironically my father has an artificial heart. lol Trust me, I do consider him alive.

    But if you want to erect strawmen arguments so that you can knock them down and feel intelligent, go nuts. I won’t get in your way.

  • invalid-0

    There was no substanse (sic) to your argument John- just religious spewings, assumptions and dogma – and those are repeated over and over and over- as if repetition would make them so.
    There would be nothing to which Harry could respond substantively.

  • invalid-0

    is it a person, with all the same rights as everyone else, or not?

  • invalid-0

    is it a person, with all the same rights as everyone else, or not?

  • invalid-0

    it’s not a person, and does not have the same rights as everyborn else.

  • invalid-0

    Cells in a uterus are not a child-
    As many have said- your concern for children is touching- so go take care of them- they inhabit orphanages, they are living in cars, in tents, in boxes, are going without proper food, medicine,education they are being raped, mutilated and killed . Every day.
    Please help us take care of these poor children- and stop worrying about a collection of cells.

  • invalid-0

    either abortion is among the most monstrous affronts to morality or it isn’t. It all rests upon the simple question, “Is it a human?”

    Well, a fetus a unique entity, which makes it precious.
    It is a stage that all person go through.
    It reacts to stimulus, which shows that it is alive.
    It certainly looks human.
    http://angela-stevens.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fetus.jpg
    http://www.websavey.com/images/users/board_images/Jyynnie/15week%20fetus.JPG

    Is it a person? This is the central dilemma of abortion. And frankly, the pro-choice movement’s utter refusal to even address this question is their biggest weakness. A lot of people will come to the conclusion that the pro-choice movement is not interested resolving this question but rather committed to abortion on demand, ethical consequences be damned.

  • invalid-0

    For anyone who is anti-abortion I ask you to think of it this way: Human women have the capability to get pregnant once every month from menses to post menopause. That is roughly 34 years out of her lifespan. Compare to a mouse who at age 30 days can begin reproducing and produce many offspring at one time for approximately 1 year of age.
    The point: we humans were not meant to be living as long as we do, but we have adopted modern science to prolong our lives. The faster one is capable of reproducing generally the shorter the lifespan. This is how nature planned it. Nature is perfection there are no flaws, except humans which have totally upset the balance of nature.
    Therefore I say to all pro and con we are all at fault whether we believe in abortion or not. Something has to be done to curb the poulation we cannot have it both ways.

  • invalid-0

    One, you have no idea what I’ve done to help people. You would be wise to not make those kind of assumptions.

    Two, why can’t a “clump of cells” indeed be a person? Because it doesn’t look like a person?

  • invalid-0

    I am making no assumptions whatsoever about what you have done to help people. Looks to me like you are being more that a tad defensive, understandable given your clap trap about cells being human beings.

  • invalid-0

    Is it a person? This is the central dilemma of abortion. And frankly, the pro-choice movement’s utter refusal to even address this question is their biggest weakness.

    No, actually, this is its greatest strength. With so many people disagreeing on this point, the pro-choice community leaves it up to the woman in whose body the fetus is present to decide. Do you really think anyone else is better qualified to make that kind of decision?

    (Probably not, seeing as your comment references the fetus numerous times, and the woman not even once.)

  • invalid-0

    made a choice to live when he refused Gods calling him home. He would have died without that artificial heart am I right? He had a CHOICE that some may not agree with because it goes against the natural law. See science has given all of us choices about life or death. The only ones (who you religious rights and catholics) don’t want to have a choice in life is WOMEN. Gee what a convienient coinscidence .

  • harry834

    "Nature is perfection there are no flaws, except humans which have totally upset the balance of nature."

    I wouldn’t employ that dichotomy of "nature good/ human intervention bad". I’d recommend reading Lee Silver’s Challenging Nature which challenges the "natural law" arguments made by BOTH the religious right AND the environmental left.

    Besides isn’t medicine a clear case where human intervention is preferred over natural ways (ie disease, jungle pathogens, etc)

  • harry834

    that each proposed human intervention in natural process needs to be evaluated on its own merit. True, our poluuted world means we often act with thinking, but sometimes administring a drug, without 100% certainty, is better than letting nature run its course (ie disease, disability, etc.)

  • harry834

    If I dropped cyanide on a petri dish of human fertilized eggs, am I a murderer? Should there be laws to prosecute me?

  • harry834

    if fertilized eggs are persons, entitled to equal human rights, than are we to do a watch everytime a woman has her period. After all, there’s a chance that the eggs that wash out are fertilized, and letting these "children" wash away without verifying them would be like giving up the search for missing children after a natural disaster.

    They are persons, are they not?

  • invalid-0

    what life would be like if we had to live by survival of the fittest as the wild animals do. If the concerns we have in the modern world would be erased with only survival. I can not figure out if it might be better or not.
    Just wanted to throw another arguement out there instead of the same old tired a human life is precious or choice is all that matters.
    I have to disagree on the humans not destroying everything. All you have to do is look around things have gone downhill and not for the better and many animal and plant species have now gone extinct. I do not think we had a right to take their lives away. I am pro-choice not pro-destruction of everything in sight!

  • invalid-0

    It is not a person until birth. It is a zygote or fetus. The definition of a person in most dictionaries is: A born human. It has to be born to have a life. Birth is the beginning of a person’s life. I don’t know how to make it any more clear for you.

  • invalid-0

    In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony!

  • invalid-0

    That isn’t anti-choice because of religion. I am proud of you. Still, I and other women won’t live our lives by YOUR opinion of their not being a God either!! So, what is your POINT??

  • invalid-0

    NO!

  • invalid-0

    Really, some of you people must come from the lowest rung on the evolutionary scale. A person is a person by birth. If a fetus is stillborn, it is not considered a person, as it had no life. It gets no birth certificate. It is only real to a woman who wanted it and dreamed for and imagined what it’s life would be like. If you miscarry at any time in the pregnacy, it gets no birth or death certificate, because it was in gestation, and not recognized as a human being, which is defined as live birth at end period of gestation, when seperated from the mother and can breathe on it’s own.

  • invalid-0

    you had a miscarriage. Still birth means that you went through the whole pregnancy, (9 months) and then gave birth to a dead baby.(hence the term, still BIRTH) A miscarriage is not considered a person, as there is no birth or death certificate. I know it is still painful, for the woman who wanted to have a baby and miscarries, and had hopes and dreams for the fetus that was not meant, by nature, to survive, but that is the truth of it.

  • invalid-0

    If that is what it is, makes absolutely no sense, but from the likes of you anti-choicers, it really is not surprising.

  • invalid-0

    IF you are an athiest, and that’s a pretty big “IF,” then you are still not without a religion–a religion of controlling women’s lives. If you’re the same anonymous who doesn’t want women to “open their legs” as commented previously, then you also practice the religion of misogyny.

  • invalid-0

    I didn’t bother to read your rambling post past the first few lines. Don’t you know that there are a few soldiers or officers of the law who abuse their power and kill people? There are clergymen who sexually abuse children and women. Shall we stop having soldiers to defend us and policement to protect us? I don’t want to not attend my place of worship and be led by lay people all the time. You would lump all abortion providers in with the providers you listed above. So your point is moot. However, I appreciate the vast majority of abortion providers who save women’s lives, in spite of you.

  • invalid-0

    So there aren’t any cards for Dark Agers either. In lieu of that, consider this my card to you.

  • invalid-0

    If you don’t believe that women should have the right to abortion, then don’t have one. To you it’s killing or murdering. To others it is their very lives. Of course, you realize that if you ban the procedure, women wll resort to back-ally providers. Most women have always, always tried to control the number of children they had. And they always will. THAT’s what bothers you. YOU aren’t in control of their lives.

  • invalid-0

    Partial birth abortion. A fetus is either born at the end of gestation (9 months) or miscarried or aborted. PERIOD. Over 90% of abortions occur in the first three months, the rest in the second trimester. The only reason a woman would seek an abortion in the last three months, which is extremely rare, is if she has a medical condition or something is wrong with the fetus and her doctor recommends it. Most legitimate doctors would NOT perform an abortion except in these RARE circumstances in the last three months (when it could be viable , ie, live on it’s own) unless their is a problem with the pregnacy. There is no such medical term as partial birth abortion. I find your story fishy. If you have felt so bad after all of these years, as you claim, then you are one in a million. I know many women who have had abortions and have felt no guilt. it makes no sense that you want to end legal abortion, which won’t stop it, but would drive women to back alley butchers, or underground (getting the abortion pills from Canada and other places) but your wanting to make women undergo unsafe abortions because of your supposed “guilt” is selfish and nasty and woman hating. I agree with the other poster. IF your story is true (and I have my doubts) you need a psychiatrist. BADLY. Not to selfishly punish other women for your supposed guilt.

  • invalid-0

    I’m sorry your thread attracted so many anti-choice trolls, but alas, it’s to be expected. I have worked in abortion care (mostly in intake and pre-abortion counseling) and have found it the most rewarding and inspiring job I’ve ever had. Thank you for all you have done, and for encouraging others to continue in this valuable, life-saving, and very much needed work!

  • invalid-0

    I read a disturbing article about how the human race is going to go extinct sooner than most thought. It was saying that over 200,000 million women are without access to birth control. You anti-choice people want all of us to die don’t you? Because that is what is going to happen soon.
    It is selfish greedy humans that are destroying the planet that you say God made and that you disrespect. You will all pay too for your sins. If I were you I would rethink your so called Godliness and concentrate on getting yourselves over gluttony and greed.

  • invalid-0

    First, you are wrong. If a baby dies after 20 weeks it is considered a still-birth. If it dies earlier, it is a miscarriage.

    More importantly, you completely miss the point. Abby was a person. She was beautiful. My love for her is no different than the love for my other children.

    Babies die. I understand that. Natural causes ment that she could not survive.

    The point is, we have to recognize that abortion impacts more than one person. It literally makes me ill that people celebrate the taking of this innocent life.

    • http://momstinfoilhat.wordpress.com invalid-0

      Actually, neither of you are using the correct medical terminology. I know this is a stale thread, but nothing bugs me more than an anti-choice, ignorant, opinionated commenter who specifically goes to pro-choice sites and then speaks incorrectly about so called medical facts and definitions.

      Before 20 weeks gestation (since the last menstrual period began), any pregnancy loss of any kind is called an ABORTION. If it occurs “naturally”, without medical induction, it is classified as a “spontaneous abortion”. Miscarriage is NOT a medical term. Neither is stillborn. The term would be “fetal demise”.

      After 20 weeks, it would be termed a “preterm delivery”, and if the fetus had no signs of fetal life, it would be called a fetal demise at however many weeks. However, even if it is called a “preterm delivery”, no one, not even the American Academy of Pediatrics, advocates even attempting resuscitation until at least 24 weeks or beyond.

      The story about a 20 week old fetus dying in her arms is tragic. But it is also proof that a 20 week old fetus is not capable of independent life. It is not alive. Pregnancy

      A wanted pregnancy with an unwanted ending is tragic. An unintended pregnancy is tragic. Why do people have such a hard time realizing that there is not a trade-off between these two scenarios? One woman can easily have many experiences with pregnancy, wanted and unwanted, over the course of one lifetime.

  • invalid-0

    How macabre that those who so dismissively refer to a preborn human being as “zygote,” or “clump of cells,” or any other medical misnomer when, in fact, it is a fully functional human being no different from you and me except in size. Your chilling terminology harkens back to another period of history when another group of individuals justified the mass extermination of living, breathing human beings by calling THEM nonpersons as well.

    Hitler, Himmler, Mengele, Goebbels, et. al. would all be very proud of you.

    Make excuses all you want, people, but it is an irrefutable, biological fact: a fetus is a human being and at no point “becomes” one. This human being exists from the moment the sperm and egg are one, and not before. Once this instantaneous event occurs, what results is a human being with everything he/she will be until this human dies, either naturally or by the intentional killing done under the feel-good guise of “choice.”

  • invalid-0

    The so-called pro-lifers are really pro-control-women’s bodies. So THAT makes them authoritarians like Hitler. With all the wealth of the RCC and the personal wealth of relgious pimps like Pat Robertson, you’d think their blind followers would say, “Gee that money ought to go to the poor, the widows, the orphaned, the hungry, the naked, etc.” Their wealth is an obsenity. They’d rather raise more money by falling back on the Eve problem–manufacturing outrage over “women’s sins.” The bible says virtually nothing about abortion. It’s the male patriarchy of the church that interprets the bible. Abortion and contraception have been around forever. You’d think it would have mentioned if it were such a horrible sin. It does, however, say so much about justice for the downtrodden. But that just doesn’t motivate the blame-everything-on-Eve crowd, does it. For all the money and power these wealthy religious institutions have, the money, attention, and advocacy they devote to the real message of their god is neglible. Terminating a pregnancy is more than a choice, it’s a moral decision carefully made by a moral agent. But this is heresy to your crowd. Nobody is forcing your women to have abortions. Your women can never be moral agents unless they make the contents of their uteruses public knowledge and property. Well, America is founded by a secular constitution, and equality has been extended to women. If you want a theocracy, you’ll have to find another country to live in.

  • otaku1960

    not another lame equation of abortion with the Holocaust. It’s lazy thinking. The only comparison between Jews and fetuses lies in their humanitiy. Any attempts to broaden that is an insult to those who suffered in Hitler’s death camps.  And while we’re on the subject: Hitler was anti-abortion for "Aryan" women; abortion was expessly forbidden so every little "Master" fetus would be carried to term and born.

    I’ve been discussing this subject long enough with pro lifers, anti-abortion folks and anti choicers (beleive me,there are distinctions) long enough to just crack a smile whenever someone claims that correct terminnology  – gamete, zygote, blastocyst, embryo, fetus – is just a "medical misnomer".  You obviously are not qualified to lecture on biology here : In no way is the zygote "fully functional", it would not survive a moment if seperated from the mother’s womb. 

     

    Your grievance shall be avenged.

    • invalid-0

      I wanted to pull Godwin’s Law on this thread. “The only comparison between Jews and fetuses lies in their humanity. Any attempts to broaden that is an insult to those who suffered in Hitler’s death camps.” is why I couldn’t make myself laugh enough to do it. (Though to be fair, I also have a tendency to take that particular comparison super-personally as a Jew who works for an abortion provider.)

  • invalid-0

    My definition. A miscarriage is when a fetus could not poosibly survive on it’s own. No fetus survives at 20 weeks! So, it is a miscarriage if it ides in the womb, NOT a still BIRTH.

  • invalid-0

    Most abortions are performed well before there is a beating heart, and you know it. But that’s besides the point. It’s not about what YOU think or even what I think, or what Harry thinks, for that matter. Because it isn’t our body, and it isn’t our future, and it ISN’T and SHOULDN’T BE our decision. Part the whole freedom of religion thing is that we don’t get to push our religion on others. And since I don’t believe in your god or your concept of heaven, it’s a non-issue for me. Some pro-choicers feel differently, and they are free to follow their own beliefs. Pro-choicers can’t codify what we believe because we all believe different things. What makes us pro-choice is that we want to be free to practice our beliefs, and we acknowledge that means we have to let others practice their beliefs. We aren’t trying to push abortions. We’re mostly trying to push contraceptives to PREVENT abortions. But feel free to ignore that, since you seem to ignore both science and other people’s points of view.

  • invalid-0

    Not all of us are thrilled or thankful to be alive. I wish I were never born. I didn’t ask for this life. So your argument is meaningless to me. I’d never willingly bring a child into the situation I was born into. Abortion is far kinder than a life of misery.
    So…next argument?

  • invalid-0

    When did yours begin? When will it end? Who says? How do you know?
    K in Ky.

  • invalid-0

    Ugh, all the sexist trolls on here need to just go away. Spew your idiotic venom somewhere else. As for the woman who is moaning about her miscarriage…I’m sorry that you lost your daughter, but you have major mental problems if you think YOUR grief and mourning means that ALL pregnant women should be forced to give birth.

    And the other woman, who STILL feels guilty over her abortion from 34 years ago? You need mental help, not a garbage patriarchal religion.

    And all you MEN who are judging women who get abortions: how about doing your part and getting vasectomies? Adopting unwanted children? Giving to charities? Yeah, didn’t think so. It’s easy to sit on your butts and pass judgment when you’ll never understand. Fools.

  • ernestp

    I am too much disagree with abortion because it’s a mortal sin..It seems that you are throwing and refusing the gift that is intended for the baby. Anyway, Ever since they went to Congress to request emergency funding, a lot of people have feared a GM shutdown. A GM shutdown is now more of a certainty than a possibility, as General Motors is coming short on a $1 billion debt payment, and they are forecasting a shutdown of all activity for at least 9 weeks. This is obviously a case beyond the scope of payday loans, as the auto maker is close to $30 billion in debt. The idea is to shut down production in order to reduce the backlog of vehicles left on lots, and the government has guaranteed warranties on all GM vehicles. Installment loans may not be able to stave off a GM shutdown.

  • davinq

    Great site!!!

  • http://www.completemedicalbilling.com invalid-0

    What an interesting article. The death of Dr. George Tiller is sad and just shows how closed minded we can be as a society. It is the law that we are allowed to choose and his death was completely tragic. Medical billing software is necessary for every office that performs any type of medical procedure to protect the rights and privacy of every person.

  • http://www.completemedicalbilling.com/ invalid-0

    This will always be a topic in which we can never agree on. At best we need to respect a womans decision and remember that we are not here to judge one another. I believe we will all have to answer for our decisions made here on earth one day to our creator.